In a message dated 8/23/2005 4:24:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, caretti@xxxxxxxxxx writes: I think the idea of a members only list is a good one. So many times a discussion is started on showgsd-l and the statement is made that we should not discuss parent club business on an "open" list... I may be crazy, (shut up Paul) but it seems to me that the more ideas and people we have to address our board, the better off we are. If there is an idea that will help the breed, just because the idea might be from a non-parent club member, does not make it a bad idea. I never did like the way they used to isolate the board members at the national in a chained off area, off limits to the members. I feel the same about making a parent club list, for members only. The place to discuss club business is at the meetings, and between meetings I would want the board members to listen to everyone. Some may remember how the board was given a select area at the national and told that they would be safe from being bothered by people who were not on the board, or friends of the board. That was my first motion when I was on the board, to do away with it. It passed, and I took some heat for it. Ken Downing started a program of inclusion, and while the club never got to the ultimate end, it is headed that way. Continue to offer your involvement, it will be accepted. And, let's avoid any isolation of the board or the members. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================