In a message dated 11/10/2005 9:11:12 AM Central Standard Time, PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 11/10/2005 9:05:03 AM Central Standard Time, willowlakegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: The folks that own these animal are usually very unreasonable and will not be stopped...soooo what is our answer??? I do not have one .. Your right...there is no answer....at least I cant think of one either. Patty Oh there's an answer alright, make those that have these dogs (usually the gang bangers, drug dealers and those that stage dog fights) pay the price for what their animals do. If the dog bites someone, charge the owner with assault and battery, fine them and put them in jail. Whatever the crime is that the animal commits the owner pays.... This is not just a leash law violation we're talking about here. They train their dogs or don't as the case may be. Make the offense the dog commits the responsibility of the owners, because it most certainly is. If they were held accountable, and not the dogs, I think you'd see some changes. The police don't punish the guns used in crimes when the perps utilize them right? Well why punish their weapon when it happens to be a dog? Don't kid yourself, these dogs are NOT pets and they are without a doubt used as weapons. They use these dogs to make money in dog fights, protect their drugs or stolen goods and to project a so called macho image within their gangs. The real problem is having laws in place to address this problem. It's hard to legislate for one problem area (as in my example) and not be discriminatory. The saddest part of this is the dogs are usually beyond repair because of the treatment they've received during their almost always short life spans. Just my thoughts on it. Regards, Pat ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================