In a message dated 5/10/10 3:16:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Ask Evan how much he respects the opinions of all-breed judges. There is a reason for his opinion Let me be perfectly clear, (to quote that great president who resigned, Richard Nixon), I respect all judges. They are always right on the day and at the time they so state. I have a good friend who became a judge. I had breakfast with him a couple of weeks later and asked how he liked it? He said, "a couple of weeks ago when I told you something, you often told me I was full of shit. Now, when I say it, it's the law." I most often prefer to show under a judge who has spend his or her life with our breed, a specialty judge. I have seen a number of all-breed judges who know a good shepherd, but not in the majority. If you have a spectacular dog, like Sam's or Paula's, almost any judge will find them. But, there are some instances where a judge has gotten the shepherd to judge, just so they can do the groups. I don't find the sheperd people any different from the all-breed people, most of the time they are the same individuals. I know when I judge ARBA, I have to judge 240 breeds. Do I know the standards? I will take the 5th on that. But, I sure can find a good dog, if I have a spectacular one. I have to admire those who take a good dog to the all-breed ring. They show the people what a shepherd is supposed to look like, and Jimmie started it with Manhatten. Paula is doing a lot for us by letting people who were used to seeing less, learn what more is. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================