I have to agree Evan. I think it was well intended, trying to open things up for folks in a situation where they wouldn't have to compete against pros...but then again, I know of a couple of talented West Coast Novice Jrs, who competed against pros, and won ;-) The Am Futurity seems to be a colossal waste of time. Now if it is really a money maker for the clubs and people are truly interested, why not have it AFTER the regular futurities? Also never got the idea that a win in the Am . Fut, didn't get you to the reg Futurity finals.. seems rather silly then. I would like to see it stopped, or moved until the end of the day. But that is only my two cents, your mileage may vary. Kathy *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com* *Updated: DEC 2012* *CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan **CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle * *RBIF Monarch's Tarragon v Kaleef* * * *"Victory...*Vires et honestas" On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/14/13 3:26:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tokaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > So as Futurity Co-Chair I ask this question......if both are judging the > quality of the dog why have both? > > > > I am not a fan of the amateur handler futurity. I have said it before, but > let me repeat myself. > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================