<Hi all I have a (perhaps silly) question to ask. In Australia, we have a Breed Survey done on most of our show dogs when they reach 18mths. To enter your dog in the Breed Survey, they must be hip/elbow x-rayed. A critique is given at the survey, which lists ever part of the dog that is addressed in the standard - especially teeth. My question is - do you have something similar in the States?? > We do have Breed Surveys here in the States, but the dogs are not required to be hip/elbow x-rayed. I went to one last Summer, and most of the dogs there were Puppies who were not old enough to have a final OFA. Some may have been prelimmed. The objective was the same, to evaluate every area of the Dog against the Breed Standard, and help the Owner learn the dog's strong (and weak) points. There were two Judges, and they each evaluated the dogs without conferring with each other, then read out their final written reports, again independently of each other's judgement. It isn't a requirement in the States, but I felt it was well worth it. I only wish more clubs would do these Surveys. Steve Visit Two Feathers German Shepherds online at http://www.wmj1944.com Website updated 7/7/2005. "If you invite the Wolf to Dinner, then don't get mad when he eats something." - Unknown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================