In a message dated 8/1/2005 6:20:38 PM Central Daylight Time, TISHW@xxxxxxx writes: Hi Ann, Would you really want someone out there judging your futurity entries who has had no or very little ring experience?? Actually there are several people who have never judged a futurity on the list this year (or not very recently anyway). Tish ****************************************************************************** ************************** Ring procedure does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Most judges have their own ring procedure and they don't all do it the same way. I think anyone who has been showing dogs long enough to qualify for a futurity other than all those matches should have enough knowledge to figure out a ring procedure and carry it out. Lee Brown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================