Steve, Sounds good to me. I live in Avondale (107th Ave / I-10), so I will already have a head start on traffic, etc. Also, if anyone on this side want's to carpool (let me know). That might be a good way to increase attendance, since it does seem to be a bit of a drive for most. Would like to have one more outing before years end (health allowing of course). Thanks for the suggestion, Please, Let us all know if it is a go. Also, let's all hope for clear skies that night...... Take care.. Steve Palmer Steve Coe <stevecoe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Howdy all; It occurred to me while looking at my electronic calendar that we still have a chance to do some observing THIS YEAR. On Sat. Dec. 29 the sunset will be around 5:30 PM and the Moonrise will be at 11:48 PM. That leaves at least a few hours for seeing the two nice comets (Holmes and Tuttle) AND...showing off that new, neat accessory you got for Christmas. We can try out the new site to the south of Saddle Mountain, about 8 miles from the Palo Verde power plant. That puts this site about 60 miles from central Phoenix. Directions below: I-10 west to Wintersburg Road, turn left from the offramp and then about 10 miles south to the "T" at Elliot Road, turn right (west) onto Elliot. Be careful of the dip and cattle guard along this road. After a few miles traveling on the blacktop, the road turns sharply right and becomes a dirt road. Keep going straight, do not make that sharp right turn, and be careful of two dips in the road. As you come out of the second dip there is a 45 degree turn to the right. So you turn away from the line of power poles onto a smooth dirt road. This happens about 0.3 miles from the pavement. Continue on this road for 0.6 miles and there is an opening in the birm on the left that I marked with rocks. It has room for lots of observers. N 33 21.147 W 112 59.756 is where I set up. See you there; Steve Coe --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.