I am not a chemist either. It's funny to make tries and "create" something. I'll try the Agfa recipe this evenning. Claude > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "claude.eichel" > To: "rollei_list" > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:40 AM > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: was : Agfa Scala, now : home-made > B&W slides in 120 revisited > > > > Hello Emmanuel and Richard, > > - The amount of sodium thiosulfate results of the reading > > of P. Glakkides book, in my understanding it was a > > constant but I can be wrong. An other reason is that I > > wanted to find a standard procedure usable by anybody. I > > agree with you that some realadjustments can by done > > varying this quantity. > > - Fogging is not a problem for the most part of the mark > > of films, the only one for wich I did'nt get any good > > result is Fuji Acros 100. I'll try to add bromide in PQ. > > - The bleaching choice was done more on toxicity than > > efficiency. But permangante woks fine for me. > > - The fixing step is present in the procedure, I'm allways > > using a hardening fixer. > > - Thank you for the formulae! The second one (Agfa) its > > very interesting for me because it mix a developer and an > > hardener : formaldehyde + sodium hydroxide is the base of > > an hardener. I'll try it asap. > > I have a question Richard : I'm trying to avoid light > > fogging after clearing. I made a test with Semicarbazide > > hydrochloride mixed in the second developper(found in > > Glafkides) but I did not obtain good results do you have > > an idea ? > > Regards > > Claude > > > > Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : > > www.laposte.net ; > > 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34?/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 > > (0,34?/mn) > > > > > I think you are way ahead of me for practical reversal > processing. Also, I've been looking for a copy of the > english language edition of Glafkides for years now, it > seems to be quite rare. > I found recent formulas for reversal processing in one of > the Kodak manuals for motion picture processing H2415. This > is available on-line from the Kodak site, it is Module 15 of > a publication _Processing Kodak Motion Picture Films_ The > various sloutions are for machine processing of motion > picture stock but might be useful as indicating the > approach. The process described still uses a re-exposure to > strong light to fog the film. Kodak's color processes seem > to use a borain but the chemistry is beyond me. I think the > formulas for processing color motion picture film are also > on line from Kodak or perhaps the MSDS for the E-6 chemistry > would have a hint. I think chemical fogging is used for > these processes. > Again, I find it odd that there seems to be so little > literature covering reversal processing of B&W film despite > its wide use for perhaps 40 years. > I am not a chemist. There is one I can write to and > perhaps get a better answer. I will try that. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34?/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34?/mn) --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list