[rollei_list] Re: OT: 1st real EBAY trouble in 10+ years...
- From: Laurence Cuffe <cuffe@xxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:20:32 -0400
No we dont have tracking on this. It was sent via some international economy
rate which was about $60 for packages less than 20 pounds. I know this can
take a while so I'm being patient. This is the sellers 6th Ebay sale, and I
think he is deeply disillusioned with the whole process.
At the end of the day, when I buying on ebay I view it as like the stock
market, its a gamble and you shouldnt play unless you are prepared to loose all
of your stake at some point on some deal. From this most of my purchases are
relativly low value items.
All the best
Larry
On Tuesday, March 16, 2010, at 09:57PM, "Austin Franklin"
<austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Hi Larry,
>
>Are you able to verify the status of shipping on the package? Do you have a
>tracking number?
>
>Sellers are required to be able to provide this...and if not, a buyer could,
>even if the buyer received the item, file a claim. Some buyers take
>advantage of sellers that way, unfortunately. And PayPal stands behind
>their rules, as long as it benefits them, and ignores their rules when it
>doesn't.
>
>Regards,
>
>Austin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Laurence Cuffe
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:22 PM
>> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: 1st real EBAY trouble in 10+ years...
>>
>>
>> I'm in a similar situation, but from the other end, I've bought a
>> telescope from a seller on Ebay as of the 21st of January and it
>> still hasn't arrived. I hope to get the money back from PAYPAL,
>> however I'm giving the seller the full duration of the dispute
>> process, as I still hope to see the telescope arrive.
>> All the best
>> Larry Cuffe
>> On 16 Mar 2010, at 23:42, Austin Franklin wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > IMO, you don't want to give PayPal your "regular" bank account.
>> > PayPal is
>> > very difficult to fight, and giving them access to all your money
>> > is really
>> > not in your best interest IMO. Free bank accounts are all over the
>> > place.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Austin
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:40 PM
>> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: 1st real EBAY trouble in 10+ years...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Jan,
>> >>>
>> >>> You will have your shipping refunded in the USPS claim, if they
>> >> honor it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can you show proof of delivery? You're required to provide some
>> >>> form of
>> >>> proof of delivery for eBay/PayPal to honor seller protection, but
>> >>> if the
>> >>> item was simply not delivered, then you have to file claim with
>> >> the shipper.
>> >>>
>> >>> Priority to HK can take a while. You used to be able to put a
>> >> "tracer" on a
>> >>> package, you may want to check with USPS about that.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have been burned by a guy in China who claimed he didn't receive a
>> >>> package, and I had proof of his receiving it. But, PayPal said
>> >> I needed to
>> >>> provide a signature (even though their rules at the time only said
>> >>> specifically "proof of delivery" at that time). Even though I
>> >>> provided
>> >>> proof as required by PayPal, since PayPal had already refunded
>> >> the money to
>> >>> the guy, they tried to make me responsible for their giving this
>> >>> guy his
>> >>> money back (and they couldn't recover it back from him...).
>> >>> Basically,
>> >>> PayPal aided and abetted this guy in making off with not only
>> >> the lense but
>> >>> the $1200 that he paid me for it. Fortunately, I had withdrawn
>> >> the money
>> >>> from my bank account (that I had specifically set-up for PayPal
>> >> transfers),
>> >>> so they couldn't get it from me. PayPal shut down my PayPal
>> >> account (I have
>> >>> another fortunately) and I had to close the bank account (and
>> >> open another)
>> >>> because of this. PayPal has not actually "come after me" for the
>> >>> $1200
>> >>> though, except for a few emails within the first months after
>> >> the incident.
>> >>> I haven't checked my credit report though. I should.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Austin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Well if its as easy as that I'll set up a pay pall account
>> >> tonight and get
>> >> going buying and selling my photo gear. Two special back accounts
>> >> is that
>> >> all?
>> >>
>> >> [Rabs]
>> >> Mark William Rabiner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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