I certainly wasn't thinking R, and would agree that an F whatever. Not sure why you wouldn't include the original F - much as I dislike the camera in use, it's as solid as anything. Unless you mean the Photomic heads... Nick --- Douglas Shea <dshea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Which Leica are we discussing here, the "R" or the > "M?" With all due > respect, having used a vast array of Nikon and > various Leica "R" cameras I'd > stop way short of calling the "R" a thoroughbred. I > would also not refer to > any of the Nikon FM/FE series cameras as > "workhorses" either. As for build > quality and expected durability I'd put the "R" and > the FM2 in the same > league; rather light duty cameras and a notch or two > below any of the Nikon > F series, especially from the F2 onwards. I'm sure > that Leica enjoys seeing > the "thoroughbred" reference -- it reinforces their > belief in their own > advertising hype. Only two SLR's come to my mind as > thoroughbreds: the > second and third generation Alpa cameras and the > Contarex. > > Doug Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com