Well, I also saw the new website. Reason that now all lenses are marked "Apogon" maybe the following: DHW just did not get or was not able/willing to pay the license fee to Zeiss for using their brand names for the lenses. Maybe the license Zeiss granted to Rollei is still hold by "Rollei", not by DHW. And the negotiations to use the brand names came out with a negative result. So I believe they exactly continue to make the same lenses as under Zeiss brand name but mark them Apogon. As all patents are expired, they of course can just continue to make the lenses. Dirk Von: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Jan Decher Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 22:40 An: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: [rollei_list] [good news from DHW Fototechnik] the HY6 lives ! Emmanuel, Great news, though its sad we no longer get Zeiss glass with the Rolleis. What happened that Zeiss is so completely out of the picture? Very much hoping to buy a Rollei FW some day but too many other needed purchases for a while due to the move to Rolleiland. Might settle for a classic used Rolleiwide with the Distagon. Definitely in the market for a Dual 66 P projector without lens soon. I sold my 110 Volt P11 in the US, but kept my three lenses (110, 150, 250mm). Jan On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:08 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:38:39 +0200 From: Bigler Emmanuel <bigler@xxxxxxxx<mailto:bigler@xxxxxxxx>> Subject: [rollei_list] [good news from DHW Fototechnik] the HY6 lives ! Good news from DHW Fototechnik Their web site is now active, http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de<http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/> http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/rolleiflex-tlr.html http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/fachkamera-x-act.html http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/rolleiflex-slr/rolleiflex-hy6.html http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/rolleiflex-slr/rolleiflex-6008-af.html http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/mittelformat-objektive.html Hence, they continue to produce the HY-6 Die HY6 lebt! http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/component/content/article/26-news/33-news-1.html And the new standard lens AFD Apogon 2,8/80mm HFT PQS, although very similar in design to the carl Zeiss Planar 2.8-80 (a 7/5 design), is probably a different lens (slightly different focal length, tiny differences in the lens layout, visible differences in the published MTF curves) http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/mittelformat-objektive/afd-objektive/afd-apogon-28-80-pqs.html to be compared with the classical Zeiss-for-Hasselblad planar 2.8-80 CFE http://applications.zeiss.com/C12578B8004E8E1D/0/3202B59C08694AC9C12578BC00386630/$file/planar_t_28_80_cfe_ger.pdf Emmanuel