What difference does it make? They will soon stop making 220 anyway. Ed On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:37 AM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > A few minutes ago Dennis Purdy has suggested me a method even simpler > that works with the automat Rolleiflexes only, since the 220 film has > paper at the start and at the end, after to take the frame 12 the film > will advance free up to the end, you only need to put the film loaded > upper spool in the lower spool chamber and to start again as for a new > roll, since the end paper is joined to the film with a tape too, it > will work as the film start for the rollers, you take again the 12 > frames and you get the 24 frames finally, very easy really. > > Carlos > > 2010/4/15 CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>: > > Yes Jerry, I think it is a solution if you use 220 film sometimes, BTW > > if you use it regularly perhaps it would be better the 220 adaptation. > > > > Carlos > > > > 2010/4/15 Jerry Lehrer <glehrer@xxxxxxxxxx>: > >> Carlos, > >> > >> Good boy! Smart thinking, indeed. I did the same thing MANY years ago > when > >> 220 film > >> first came out. I opened the back and stuck a 2 inch long piece of > black > >> slide binding tape > >> to the back of the film just before the feeler rollers. In a changing > bag > >> of course. Worked > >> every time. > >> > >> Jerry > >> > >> > >> CarlosMFreaza wrote: > >>> > >>> I did it, I rewound again the 220 film from the 'cord IV, I loaded it > >>> in the 2.8C again, I shot with the lens cap on the lens up to the > >>> frame 12, working with my hands within a dark bag I open the camera > >>> back, the frames counter returned to zero, I found with my fingers the > >>> roller and put the same tape that comes with films to stick the film > >>> start to the paper on the film in the camera, to the part beside the > >>> roller but before to pass between the rollers, I closed the camera and > >>> turned the crank, I perceived the typical resistence when the rollers > >>> "feel" the film start and after a short advance the number 1 appeared > >>> in the window, the 2.8C it's ready to shoot the frame 13. > >>> I comment these experiences because I think they could be useful for > >>> some Rollei users, B&W 220 film is no longer available after TMY 320 > >>> was discontinued some months ago, but it is available for color > >>> negative and slide films.- > >>> > >>> Carlos > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2010/4/14 CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I was thinking about this issue, perhaps the solution is easy, I only > >>>> need to add a tape to the film when I open the camera back, the frame > >>>> 12 is in the film gate, if I add a tape after the frame 12 and close > >>>> the back, the tape plus film will press the lower roller and the film > >>>> counter will be engaged again, perhaps I'll rewind the film in the > >>>> 'cord to try this solution with the 2.8C again. > >>>> > >>>> Carlos > >>>> > >>>> 2010/4/14 CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> After the success using 220 film with the Rolleicord IV, I commented > I > >>>>> had uploaded the 2.8C with the Tri-X ISO 320, 220; I also commented > >>>>> the automatic mechanism worked fine to advance the frames counter up > >>>>> to the number 1. After to take the frame 12 and before to advance the > >>>>> film, I open the camera back in the darkness and the frames counter > >>>>> came back to zero, as you could expect. Problem was when I started to > >>>>> advance the film again, the film advance mechanism worked as if the > >>>>> film was already finished, the film advanced but it never engaged the > >>>>> number 1, the automatic film feeler to advance to number 1 did not > >>>>> work because there was film running through it evidently. I rewound > >>>>> the film in an empty spool and put it in the 'cord IV, I shot with > the > >>>>> lens cap on the lenses up to the frame 12 (this first part has the > >>>>> images taken with the 2.8C) and repeated the procedure, it worked > fine > >>>>> again with the 'cord IV because this camera does not have the lower > >>>>> film feeler mechanism, the film advanced up to the number 1 and the > >>>>> camera is ready to shoot the real frame number 13, I'll have Xenotar > >>>>> and Xenar shots in the same roll.- > >>>>> > >>>>> Carlos > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> --- > >> Rollei List > >> > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in > the > >> subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' > in the > >> subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > >> > >> > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > >