ENHolmberg wrote: "Ok I'll bite, how do you build a scratch built a dual deploy "I" powered rocket with reload for $20? " Two three inch od U-Line mailing tubes at dollar store.................................................$2.00 One of those is cut in pieces, a one foot long piece for recovery section A one inch long piece for the band around the avionics bay Two eight inch long pieces for the avionics bay slit and glued into each other Scrap left other for second av bay Four fins/centering rings cut from discarded 4' x 8' Luan door skin from Home Depot......Free Enough for a hundred more fins One foot by sixty inch piece of fiber glass clothe..........................................................$1.50 Epoxy for glassing the fins.......................................................................................<$1.00 38mm x 48" motor mount tube free from Walmart (they throw them away).....................Free 4" x 4" x 1 foot piece of redwood for nose cone from Lowe's.........................................$2.00 Sugar for rocket fuel, 100 grams.................................................................................$0.30 ... Potassium nitrate for rocket oxidizer, 200 grams...........................................................$0.50 Four sheets 8" x 11" computer printer paper for casting tubes........................................$0.04 Four ounce bottle of Elmers glue (on sale)....................................................................$0.49 One yard 44" rip stop nylon fabric from Walmart for making two chutes...........................$1.50 One hank of nylon chord for chute lines.........................................................................$0.99 Twenty feet of nylon chord for tethers..........................................................................$1.99 Two scrounged bullet casings for deployment charges....................................................Free Two U bolts for av bay................................................................................................$1.68 Two Screw links for U bolts.........................................................................................$1.98 Assorted nuts and all thread........................................................................................$1.95 Creativity and time..................................................................................................Priceless I built my Tripoli Level-II rocket fins using counter top samples from Home Depot that were free, the granite looks cool. We could have saved the cost of the fiber glassing of the fins by using them but I wanted the students to get practice fiber glassing. We did a second back up rocket using a 'Skull and Crossbone' printed cotton fabric applied to another set of U-Line mailing tubes. Even the cost of the U-line tubes could have been saved if we chose to use 4" tubes from the carpet/linoleum department at Lowe's (when they finish selling the material on the cardboard tubes they throw them away). I have many as I wanted to sell a "Scratch Build a Rocket" kit for a ROC competition years ago. They are 12' long so I usually bring a hand saw and cut them into two, three, or four pieces in the parking lot to get them home in my car. For the flight, they used heavier 7/16" nylon web for the tethers since they bought it for a larger rocket and wanted to use it. For the ends of the av bay besides using the door skin, we also used some scrap polycarbonate from Lowe's that was free. We used some for the altimeter platform also. It would really be cheap if done as a minimum diameter rocket simply using the 38mm tube from Walmart, a 2" x 2" x 6" piece of wood NC, and counter top fins. The last entry is the key. If you have lots of time, a scratch built high power rocket can be made for next to nothing, I'm designing a less than $99 10,000 Nsec rocket that includes EVERYTHING except the launch pad (airframe, recovery, motor, propellant, etc) but it requires TIME and for many, TIME is MONEY. When I first did rockets at school the principal thought it was the coolest thing ever. When I brought him the $600 bill for all the student rockets and motors he refused to reimburse me, lesson learned so I did scratch building with students. If you spend your time working and just funding a rocket for yourself it makes sense that you buy ready made kits and or components that help support our vendors who supply us with many other things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I62PZzxmeuE Rick From: ENHolmberg@xxxxxxx Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:42:37 -0400 Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Contest idea To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Ok I'll bite, how do you build a scratch built a dual deploy "I" powered rocket with reload for $20? In a message dated 8/19/2012 7:33:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rickmaschek@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Yesterday the students I'm helping launched their scratch built dual deploy "I" powered rocket. Total cost excluding Perfect Flight but including propellant reload, airframe, fins, motor mount, nose cone, chutes less than $20 and could have been less if that was the goal. Motor eject could have been used. Rick