It's a grey area for sure. But the "persistant connections" wording clears it up a bit. In other words, a computer that you have more or less direct control of or through. Sounds good for a start. Greg Goodwin @><-- >------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: retrochallenge-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:retrochallenge-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:25 PM To: retrochallenge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [retrochallenge] Remote hosts rule ... In order to demonstrate the utility of legacy systems in the modern world, a computer must use remote services. This was also common throughout the 1980's and early 1990's as people started getting online via a diverse number of networks. On the otherhand, the capabilities offered by these remote systems could far exceed the capacity of any computer system of that era (as an example, I have used one of the top 500 supercomputers via SSH)) so certain restrictions should be in place. I propose the following restrictions. - You cannot login to a non-qualifying system in your home. - There are no restrictions on non-persistent connections (eg. HTTP). - You are restricted to character based sessions for persistent connections (eg. Remote Desktop, VNC, and X11 do not qualify) Comments or suggestions? Byron.