[realmusicians] Re: windows 7 , any advantage over xp?

  • From: Roy Shtupler <shtupler@xxxxxxx>
  • To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:17:42 +0200

totally agree on this; I'm now using an AMD Athlon 64X2 processor on a 
Giga-Byte computer as my desktop.
am going to save up some cache for the move to 64-bit and buying additional 6 
or 8 gb of memory.
will also have to check how it'll go for my Dell Latitude d630 laptop which 
also uses 2gb of memory.
talk soon
Roy.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: D!J!X! 
  To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:37 PM
  Subject: [realmusicians] Re: windows 7 , any advantage over xp?


  Roy, you can use 32bit apps on the 64 bit platform, which is what i would do 
until you are conftable with moving completely to 64 bit. Running a 64 bit OS 
will let you access all 4gb for your 32bit apps, which you can't do now on an 
x86 (32bit) system due to hardware limitations of the platform. Here's kind of 
an explanation, i'll try not to get too technical:
  Basically the x86 platform has a limit of 4gb of addressable ram, which 
includes ram on any peripheral devices, such as network cards, onboard 
chipsets, sound cards, video cards etc. This is not to say that your system is 
sharing your physical ram with those components, but instead that the system 
has to address all those other ram chips and run them on the same bus as your 
ram, since you can only have a max of 4gb addressed on an x86 system, you never 
be able to truely have 4gb of ram, it usually maxes out at 3.5/3.25... Don't 
confuse this with something like shared video ram, where your system actually 
shares ram with the video card, hwich gives you less system ram, even if you 
have a video card with it's own dedicated ram, the system still can't give you 
any more ram past the 3.50 limit or even less; this number decreases everytime 
you add peripherals that have ram chips that require an address.
  With an x64 system however, you can run upto 128gb of ram; this is the spoken 
limit, theoretically speaking, the number is much higher than this... Which 
means that when you say run an x64 system with 8 gigs of ram, you can actually 
have 4gb of ram available to your 32bit programs, since your system can see and 
will use all 8 of them. So if you run windows7 with 8gb, sonar 32bit can see 
and use the 4gb of ram that it can work with, and you'll still have 4 
additional for windows and any other programs. This however is kind of tricky, 
because win7 x64 requires 2gb of ram minimum; but as always, you want to double 
the minimum, so give it say 4gb of minimum ram, so with 8 gigs you'll still be 
able to get 4gb out clean, i wouldn't recommend anything less than 8 for an x64 
system, that's what I tell all my customers when I'm building/putting together  
daws or high-end computer workstations for them. This only changes and gets a 
bit more complicated when you are dealing with intel's new Core i5/i7/i9 
(coming soon!) CPU's... I'll add you to skype and we can have a chat; with all 
the new stuff coming out and technology dropping prices people are just going 
out and buying stuff, but they're making some  mistakes that will cause their 
systems great instabilities... That's what i see over and over with the systems 
that people bring in to my shop, or the specs they send me online for their 
systems (current and/or future ones). Win7 is a great OS, you however have to 
make sure you have the right things to run it; like Tom stated, it starts with 
getting the correct drivers, but if you can get it to work and configure it for 
optimal use, it'll kick vista's and even xp's but out of the water! However 
that all depends, what your needs are and what you want your system for...

  HTH, D!J!X!


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  From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roy Shtupler
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:37 AM
  To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [realmusicians] Re: windows 7 , any advantage over xp?


  thought there were features of Sonar/JSonar supported only in 32-bit so far; 
if not , shall consider 64 bit and the addition of ram.
  thanks alot
  Roy.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Phil Muir 
    To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:13 PM
    Subject: [realmusicians] Re: windows 7 , any advantage over xp?


    Ehh Roy.  Why would you want to run the 32 bit version?  Curious.



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      -----Original Message-----
      From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roy Shtupler
      Sent: 17 December 2009 13:07
      To: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx; realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; General discussion 
of the JSonar project
      Subject: [realmusicians] windows 7 , any advantage over xp?


      hi listers
      to all windows 7 32 bit users;
      any significant improvements over xp 32-bit regarding the OS , 
screen-readers , and music applications in terms of speed , stability , etc?
      don't want to stray too off-topic here , so you may answer privately.
      just want to make sure it's the right investment before forking over 200 
bucks on the ultimate edition.
      thanks alot and all the very best
      Roy.

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