hey, darryl, i finally found 3dsmax and i can start modelling some generic houses if ya want. Also, i've got two more questions can we create maps using 3dsmax only? cause the level editor is to hard to use and i've got windows xp and it doesn't draw all of the viewports on startup, just one. it's only when u maximize it that they all show. but u then have to move around in the viewport to get it to show anything! and, how do we use the cal export plugins for skeletons etc, and whatdo we to model them? thanks, Dougs, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Find our more.[1] --- Links --- 1 http://g.msn.com/8HMTENAU/2755