[pure-silver] Re: terminology change re list migration ...

  • From: anclancy@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:24:40 +0000

thanks Rob, frankly enough is enough. Let's get on with making images.
I don't take mud baths for my body and i surely don't want them for my soul. 
regards, 
ann
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> I rather thought that this list had already arrived at where it wants to be. 
> From my viewpoint, your presumption that this list at freelists is not where 
> it 
> wants to be, is incorrect. 
> The problem now is that some people on another list elsewhere want to be 
> somewhere else but not here. 
> That is fine and dandy but as long as those who want to be in another place 
> try 
> to foster opinion and support from those who have already arrived at where 
> they 
> want to be, there will be bickering about where that other place should be 
> and 
> whether in fact that other place should exist at all or whether it is just a 
> fantasy drama. 
> The best policy would be to keep quiet about it at this list and let those 
> who 
> want to be somewhere else bicker about being somewhere else, somewhere else. 
> Then when they've finished bickering and found that place that they are 
> looking 
> for they can merely present it as available and those who want to go to that 
> other place are free to do so at that time, or any other time for that 
> matter. 
> 
> rob 
> 
> 
> 
> At 12/09/2004 12:39 -0400, you wrote: 
> >sep1204 from Lloyd Erlick, 
> > 
> >I think we've developed a bit of needless acrimony. 
> > 
> >I'd like to look upon the various people who are advocating their versions 
> >of what we should do as developers of various contingency plans. They are 
> >very kindly offering resources and personal time. They have for the most 
> >part described their plans for others to consider. 
> > 
> >Perhaps we could stay where the list is at present, until we perceive a 
> >need to change again. By then we will have had lots of time to discuss the 
> >various plans, and the next change could be much more orderly and thought 
> >out. 
> > 
> >In the meantime, it would be much more productive to discuss the matter(s) 
> >unemotionally and without personal aspersions. Really, we're very fortunate 
> >to have such an embarrassment of riches. Look what we're doing - arguing 
> >over which unbelievably generous offer to accept! I'd rather have the 
> >various generous parties think about their plan and set things up at their 
> >own ends in such a way that when or if the time comes some chosen plan 
> >could be implemented painlessly. 
> > 
> >Also, since Tim has pointed out that he has basically paid for it all over 
> >the years, we should consider a way to get some cash. For a start, could we 
> >think about sending some modest amount to help with costs? I'd propose 
> >twenty dollars per year. I'd also just leave it loose, call it the honour 
> >system if you like. Even a handful of regulars ponying up modestly would 
> >probably make a difference. 
> > 
> >I would say we should just trust the list keeper with the money, since it 
> >will very likely be a small amount! 
> > 
> >My competence is not at all in the digital arena, so I am content to go 
> >along with the server/software/tech decisions of others on this list who 
> >obviously know better than I do. 
> > 
> >However, I do have competence in the area of human relations. (Think it's 
> >possible to do portraits like mine without it?) And I say this discussion 
> >group should adhere strictly to its own, former, high standards of 
> >behaviour. The true uniqueness of this group is not the technical 
> >proficiency of the participants, but the civility of the discourse. Without 
> >that, the willingness of individual participants dwindles over time, and 
> >the quality of the whole suffers as the various technically proficient 
> >members wander away. We have been fortunate to see the reverse process 
> >taking place -- an extreme rarity -- and we should do our best to promote 
> >that aspect of our activities. 
> > 
> >regards, 
> >--le 
> >________________________________ 
> >Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. 
> >voice: 416-686-0326 
> >email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >net: www.heylloyd.com 
> >________________________________ 
> > 
> > 
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