[pure-silver] Re: stopbath kills fixer
- From: "Tim Rudman" <ps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:03:34 -0000
Oh Richard, well said.
I am just catching up on emails as I have been away. I so much agree with
you. I too come from a culture of knowledge is there to be shared for the
benefit of all. Just think how much more advanced medical research (for
example) would be if all research was pooled from its discovery. Only now
with the internet would that be possible - although of course it won't be!
Tim
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From: "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: stopbath kills fixer
> Are you soliciting information here so that you can
> paraphrase them in
> another forum?
> --
> Ryuji Suzuki
And claim it as original research?
Practically everything I write or have written to photo
forums is from books somewhere and is usually paraphrased
from books or articles I've read. This all gets blended in
my mind into some sort of understanding, which I am quite
willing to share with anyone who finds it useful.
One might argue that, given the provision that _my_
understanding is, in fact, correct, that my posting of
information saves those who are too lazy from having to do
their own research. There is probably some truth to this.
However, the same point can be made about any published
material. Books like Mees's famous _Theory of the
Photogaphic Process_ are really collections of the condensed
research of many others. Much, if not most, of the material
in that book, as well as others, comes from published
journal articles, which, in theory at least, were available
at the time of printing, to readers. Why should they not
have to do the research required to collect and read all
this matrial? One can take this further but I think the
point has been made.
IMO a large part of true science is the free promulgation
of new knowledge. The results of research carried on for
strictly commercial application may not fall into the
catagory of pure science, it is rather applied science. The
promulgation of knowlege from such research is frequently
limited because there is some perceived commercial value
from it. Of so, it must be kept secret and not published
except in a protected form, i.e., a patent, or else kept as
a trade-secret. Both kinds of knowlege exist in photography.
For instance, Kodak published an enormous amount of research
in peer-reviewed journals and also in more popular forms.
However, a great deal of the practical knowledge of how
exactly to manufacture products was kept very secret. If one
posseses knowlege gained for the purpose of commercial
exploitation its probably best not to even hint at its
existence until it can either be employed or protected in
some way. This must apply to original or unique knowlege, it
can not, in principle, apply to established or common
knowledge.
In science as in jouralism the claiming of other's work
as one's own _original_ work is considered a very serious
breach of ethics, and can even be criminal. However, the use
of well estabilished knowledge, or the use of other's work
with proper attribution, is quite acceptable, and, in fact,
necessary.
This is an informal forum. Most e-mail and Usenet groups
are informal. They do not have the same strigent rules of
publication that a scholarly journal must have. It is the
purpose of such a forum to provide a means for open exchange
of ideas and experiences and their free discussion. Ideally,
some teaching takes place and some knowlege is gained. Those
taking part expect both and must be willing to be both
teachers within the limits of their knowlege and students
beyond it.
Knowledge may be considered a possesion. However, it
differs from most possesions that sharing it does not lessen
the quantity one has. In fact, the act of imparting it may
well increase it.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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