[pure-silver] Re: Warm-tone Papers (Also Lith materials)
- From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 15:25:23 +0100
Yes of course. I'll be posting it out to all the people on my mailing list
in the morning, so if you are on it you will get it.
It's specifically about papers and developers that lith print, but most
warmtone papers do.
There is good news about some Agfa papers and some brand new breaking news
(not yet released) about Polywarmtone.
It's nice to get some positive news for a change!
Tim
http://www.worldoflithprinting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bogdan Karasek
Sent: 26 May 2007 14:44
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Warm-tone Papers (Also Lith materials)
Hi Tim,
Just put myself on your mailing list. I've done lith in the past; maybe
time to get back to it.
Would it be possible to get a copy of your update on warm tone papers.
Since the demise of Agfa and Forte, I'm also scurrying around trying to find
an adequate replacement.
Cheers,
Bogdan
Tim Rudman wrote:
>
> Eric - (and puresilverers all)
> I just spotted your 'warmtone' post.
>
> I have just finished an update for the lith printing materials (mostly
> warmtone) list that I published in my last book, as 6 months on there
> have already been a lot of changes - AND there is quite a bit of
> breaking news about new products, new labels, and 'Lazarus' (returning
> from the dead!) products - something fairly new in the silver world
> and coming about as a reaction to the demise of some big names, like Agfa
and Forte.
>
> Although aimed at Lith materials, most of the papers concerned are
> warmtone papers and therefore will be of interest to you. This year
> should see several new products.
>
> This update is too long to post here and is due to go out to my
> mailing list this morning, but just in case anyone on this list would
> like a copy and isn't on my list I will hold it up a day, until
> tomorrow morning (Sunday a.m. UK time) to give anyone time to register on
the list if they wish.
> It is free of course and registration is simply for information
> dissemination and your emails are safe.
>
> The list registration is at http://www.worldoflithprinting.com
> (that's not meant to be an advert, that's just where the list happens
> to
> be!)
>
> I hope this is OK to post here but it will be helpful info.
> Tim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Nelson
> Sent: 26 May 2007 00:12
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Warm-tone Papers
>
> I tried some Oriental VC warm tone paper the other day and found that
> I liked it, yet couldn't find any mention of it in a quick search of
> the archives. I'd been using Forte Polywarmtone but since it's
> demise, have been wondering which warmtone paper to use next.
> I haven't a body of work I need to match, so starting with a new brand
> is fine. In some ways I wished I had started using Oriental WT much
> sooner thinking back to some 180 second exposures on Forte.
>
> I found the Oriental MUCH faster and higher contrast than Forte. Also
> it was much warmer thereby negating the need to mix Ansco 115 every
> time I want to use a warmtone paper and get a really warm image.
>
> Ansco 115 (glycin) and Oriental might give even better results than
> Dektol
> 1:1 but having a high degree of warmth in common ol' dektol is a plus
> for Oriental paper.
>
> Forte on top of being glacially slow, typically needed a 3.5 filter to
> print nicely from a PMK neg. Using higher contrast filters caused the
> print to render less warm so I would frequently need to dilute more to
> countereact that, thereby increasing development times.
>
> I've found that Bergger's warmtone performed equally in terms of speed
> to Forte and seemed to offer no major difference other than a thicker
> paper, which is nice in some respects yet doesn't, in my mind, justify
> the cost of it. My testing of it is not nearly as extensive as with
Forte.
>
> So I'm wondering what others have experienced and their preferences in
> terms of warmtone papers that are still avaiable. I'm hoping that
> there are folks on the list that have worked or still do work with all
> or most of them to give me an idea if I should keep with Oriental for now
or test some others.
> I have tried Ilford's warmtone as well, but didn't find the warmth as
> great nor any paper speed advantage. There's Fomatone and perhaps a
> few others I've not tried and I'm curious as to what people have found
> in their testing and printing experiences as to what works best for
> them
>
> I know there can be more opinions on this than there are days in the
> year, but I'm just hoping to either confirm my experience, or find a
> consensus of some sort to steer me to one other paper to try without
> having to test every warmtone paper and developer combination out there
...again.
>
> Eric
> http://archival-photo.net
> http://www.eman-photo.com
>
>
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Canada www.bogdanphoto.com
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