[pure-silver] Re: Spotting negatives?

  • From: Ken Sinclair <photo1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:30:06 -0600

Bob,
'Soft' graphite pencils were also used on the base on "non-toothed' films after a sparse application of Kodak Retouching Fluid (now banned due to the tri-chloroethylene (or was it "di..?).
Where I was 'working' it was more than acceptable to spend a ridiculous amount of time 'hiding' (or 'reducing' natural) wrinkles and removing the occasional specular highlight from spectacles 
when making the "Official" bi-annual portrait.

I still have a half-bottle of that retouching fluid hidden away.
To-day, I might prefer to use well THINNED DOWN red opaque on the rare occasion it might be of use to 'fill-in' any negative clear spots such that I may spot fill on the print. 


Ken


On 6-Jun-11, at 9:56 AM, BOB KISS wrote:


Actually, lead pencils of different softnesses/hardnesses were used to
retouch negatives. This worked well on film that had a special, finely 
textured base coating that had "tooth" that took the pencils well.  I
actually have a set of these pencils. To disclose my age, the portraits at my high school were shot 5X7 view camera (b&w) and the negs were penciled to remove blemishes. Looking at the prints now it is so obvious but we were 
not so visually sophisticated then.
Pencils don't work very well on modern glossy film bases but the
lithographer's opaque I recommended in my Sunday 9 am e-mail which is water soluble (and makes a finer dot when diluted with a very little photo flo) 
sticks to the base very well.
                CHEERS!
                        BOB

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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Spotting negatives?



Before Photoshop photographers used lead pencils to spot negatives.

Jacques Augustowski
            PY1HY
On Seg 06/06/11 12:07 , "Michael A. Smith and Paula Chamlee"
michaelandpaula@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx sent:

Spottone does not work on negative material. Dry

"Peerless Dry Spot." Yes, a magnifying glass, a

very fine brush, and a very steady hand are needed.



Michael A. Smith



On 6/6/11 10:26 AM, Grif wrote:






Reading only, no real experience.  For this sort



of stuff, didn't they use a water soluble



spotting product on the back of the negative,



then spot the print?  Keeps the spotting dye off



the emulsion, makes the problem a white spot



instead of black on the final print.











At 02:25 PM 6/5/2011, you wrote:



I forgot to mention that it is easier to spot



prints than negatives.  Another plus is that if



you screw up you can always make a new print.



Retouching negatives is an art that requires



lots of practice.  Hope this makes my previous



post make more sense.







Jerry











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Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 4:49:47 PM



Subject: [pure-silver] Spotting negatives?







I've got a 6x7 negative with two pinholes in



the emulsion. They are in a light part of the



sky, so they print black. Not good.



I've never tried spotting a negative, but am



willing to try (with a little guidance).



I assume a lightbox and magnifier will be



helpful. I've got both.



Do I use a fine brush and Spotone?



Do I spot the emulsion side or the base side?



Thanks.



--



John Bower, an Indiana Artisan



http://www.studioindiana.com/
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