Sure. Heat 500ml of antifreeze to 200 to 250 deg in the microwave. Add (one thing at a time): 50g Ascorbic acid (mine from the healthfood store) 1.25gm (5/8 teaspoon)phenidone 1gm KBr It'll take some swirling and a few minutes for everything to dissolve. Use it 10ml stock to 500ml water with 1/2 teaspoon borax (20 mule team) 1/2 teaspoon washing soda (arm and hammer) Times for straight D-76 are very close for everything I've tried (TMX,TMY,Fuji Neopan 400, Acros, Delta 400) Here's what I've been using for print developer with very happymaking neutral tone results: E72 1/27/2001 The most hazardous component in traditional Dektol is the Hydroquinone. The EPA lists this agent as an airborne carcinogen. So, even if you are not going to try E72, do buy your paper developer in liquid form. FORMULA [to make one liter]: 0.4 grams phenidone 45 grams sodium sulfite 19 grams vitamin C (powdered) 90 grams sodium carbonate Use exactly the same developing times as traditional Dektol. Dilute 1:2 to use. There is some affect of aging on this developer, it gets stronger over the period of a couple of weeks. You can get the powdered Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) from health food stores. [Do not use sodium ascorbate in place of ascorbic acid (Vit C)] To make with Gainer's Antifreeze solution which uses 2.5 grams of Phenidone and 100 grams of ascorbic acid per liter: 150ml of Gainers concentrate 2 tablespoons Sodium Sulfite 4 teaspoons sodium carbonate 4 teaspoons borax ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo Christoffer" <leo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:24 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Gainer PC/Antifreeze formula > Could someone list the fomular for the Gainer PC/antifreeze formula and > starting times for film or give a list of a Web site I could go to. > > Thanks > > Leo Christoffer > > genej2@xxxxxxx wrote: > > >gainer's PC/antifreeze stock solution has been working very well for me and I can use it to make print developer too. I just added the KBr and it's even better than before. The stock solution has been going on about 8 months now. I just add the stock to borax and washing soda and water. It's replaced just about all my developer. > > > > > >>From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 03:14:09 EST > >>To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: New Years Resolutions - Photographic > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "BertS" <aasainz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:01 AM > >>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: New Years Resolutions - > >>Photographic > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>>From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > >>>>Christopher > >>>>Woodhouse > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:39 AM > >>>>To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: New Years Resolutions - > >>>>Photographic > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>I'm going to find a film that is available in roll film > >>>>and 5x4 and nobody > >>>>is going to discontinue it. As for the developer.....that > >>>>will be next > >>>>year's. > >>>> > >>>>Chris Woodhouse > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>D23. Guaranteed to never be discontinued. > >>> > >>>Bert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> D-76 is also easy to mix from scratch as are some other > >>developers. For common negative and print developers and for > >>fixing baths one needs only a few ingredients. A decent > >>scale is a great convenience but not a necessity. In the > >>period before 1945 probably most photgraphers mixed their > >>own processing solutions. It is neither difficult nor > >>dangerous. > >> > >>--- > >>Richard Knoppow > >>Los Angeles, CA, USA > >>dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >>========================================================================== =================================== > >>To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > >> > >> > >> > > > >Be Just And Fear Not > > > >=========================================================================== ================================== > >To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > > > > > > > > ============================================================================ ================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.