[pure-silver] Re: Fixing time for fiber
- From: "EJ Neilsen" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:33:26 -0500
Well, I don't get so wrapped around testing every session, but I'd test your
"standard" process. If it is the image area, how did you see this or is it
just the middle area of the print? Are you running water while you hold the
prints before final wash? Or just letting them sit?
I'd look to the stop bath as a place that is allowing too much developer
carry over. Fixer can only do so much, but a print that has a heavy
developer carry over is a problem.
I suspect a lack of agitation rather than solution strength or freshness. I
know that when I get into a flow, I need to be careful not to get too loose
with my agitation per tray and not so much how long; although that is always
a part of it.
Eric
Eric Neilsen Photography
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BOB KISS
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:07 AM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Fixing time for fiber
>
> DEAR ERIC,
> By all means, you should be testing for completeness of
> fixing for
> every printing session, not only for the freshness of the
> fixer.
> Also, do I understand that you don't have stain on the
> white
> boarders of the prints, only on the image areas? Wouldn't
> incomplete fixing
> also show in the white boarders...or especially in the white
> boarders?
> If the stain is in the image area where you have more
> silver density
> than the base + fog that you get in the boarders, I get the
> feeling that it
> might be more related to toning, yes?
> This is a bit beyond my capabilities but I hope my
> questions will
> help.
> CHEERS!
> BOB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric
> Nelson
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:48 AM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Fixing time for fiber
>
> I'm preparing an HT-2 solution and the ST-1 solution
> to diagnose a couple prints that have turned on me.
>
> I use a double kodak rapid fixer bath and test them
> till they are exhausted and then toss them, rotating
> the fixer #2 into the #1 position and making a new #2
> bath. I fix for a total of 5 minutes and then go to a
> water bath OR directly to the washer where they may
> wash for 15-30 mins. before they go to a still water
> bath to wait for hypo clearing when I finish the
> printing session. I wash for over an hour in a
> vertical archival washer after hypo clearing. I've
> never had any problems toning afterwards.
>
> The prints in question have turned yellowish brown
> ONLY in the image area which, without testing, says to
> me that they didn't get enough fixing. I have always
> been leary of fixing for too long with fiber, but that
> may have come back to bite me you-know-where.
>
> So, speaking to Richard's comment of going longer in
> the fixer depending on the number of prints that have
> gone through the solution, I'd like to work with a
> fixing time that I can depend on without having to get
> all empirical and test these dang prints all the time.
>
> Is there a dependable time for that? Obviously 5
> minutes total time in partially used fixers needs to
> be longer but I don't want to over-fix either.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> As a side note, in speaking with Kodak professional I
> found the person I spoke to lacking in knowledge in
> regard to the testing solutions for silver and hypo.
> I wonder, since they no longer make paper, if they are
> phasing out support/knowledge of paper related issues.
> The information can be found elsewhere via the web of
> course, but isn't too helpful for a novice or the
> uninitiated who may not know what to look for.
>
> Eric
>
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