[project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?

  • From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:22:43 -0700

oh, meant to say they are allowed to do that without a warrant or just cause
or any of that.

also, part of the DMCA (digital multimedia copyright act) calls for search
and seizure without a warrant.

The DMCA is the USA's implementation of a treaty that the WTO is behind.

I read this letter once where a US govt employee of some stature (like a
diplomat or a state department person) was writing to some scandanavian
country who refused to enact it into law due to the fact that it went
against their country's constitution - which was based on ours!

plenty of crappy, injustice creating lamers out there ):
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> hrms...
>
>  the law is that the govt can supboena anyone for any information for any
> reason and you aren't allowed to say no, and in fact you aren't even allowed
> to talk about it happening.  Not even in a court of law (i wonder what would
> happen if you were asked under oath?)
>
> So there is no legal recourse, until they screwed up and leaked an
> admission that they were doin it, kinda crazy:
>
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1228088813.shtml
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> I am the neon tiger.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> you would.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like cops.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  cops pulled me over 3x in the weeks after I was released just to
>>>>> "check in on me", rotten mother fuckers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I once had a friend who i'll call "Eric"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me and him were chillin somewhere at night mindin our own business and
>>>>>> some cops came and started talkin to us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Long story short, he was peppersprayed, beaten (it took a cop around
>>>>>> his middle and one on each arm to take him down), stomped a couple times 
>>>>>> neo
>>>>>> nazi style when he was on the ground, and then arrested for resisting
>>>>>> arrest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was in jail for 2 days i think and when they took him to court,
>>>>>> they dropped the charges before the trial since they didn't actually have
>>>>>> anything to try him with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> good times :P
>>>>>>   On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all joking aside though, im right there with you Cid, but i'd add
>>>>>>> more than just lawyers to the list of people dragged out of their 
>>>>>>> overpriced
>>>>>>> stuffy offices :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you dont like our justice system?  man, cops have never been
>>>>>>>> anything but nice and helpful for me, i dont understand where the 
>>>>>>>> anti-gov
>>>>>>>> sentiments come from ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, CiD <screamingdazeez@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Smart man.  Something interesting is military law is different
>>>>>>>>> than civilian law under the same country umbrella of power.  I do not 
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> our justice system and think lawyers should be dragged out of their
>>>>>>>>> overpriced, stuffy offices and stripped down to their skivvies and 
>>>>>>>>> slapped
>>>>>>>>> with wet towels until they are severely red bodied and sent home to 
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> mommas for instructions on how to properly share their milk chocolate 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the rest of the class!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- On *Wed, 3/31/10, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: OT: microsoft, secretly our friend?
>>>>>>>>> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 8:26 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They must have some angle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like maybe they have something to hide that they dont want the govt
>>>>>>>>> to see or something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I dont trust MSs intentions for 1 second :P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:04 AM, eric drewes 
>>>>>>>>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/49179-google-and-microsoft-call-for-greater-limits-on-government-snooping
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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