If you want me to walk you through it add me adon skype Ken.perry.aph or call me at 502-432-3701. If you don't have at cheap phone service like mine I will call you . It maybe that you're not running the latest jaws 12 did you download it? p.s. Yes I know I posted this tot the email list I really don't care who has my number or Skype. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:24 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: using Visual Studio 2010 with the new updated JAWS build 12.0.1158 That's what I was trying to do in the first place, and it still claimed that the UI elements were unavailable. I'm not sure if this is a jaws thingo or not. And then the other thing that bothers me is that I cannot see the code that verifies the presence of the button so that I can put a message box there. I think the code is" PrivateButton_click. I forget how it exactly works because that's VS-generated code. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:30 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: using Visual Studio 2010 with the new updated JAWS build 12.0.1158 It's pretty easy to put a button on a form graphically even with the limited scripts Jaws 12 added. So what you do is press enter on the form1.cs or form1.vb or whatever your c++ file is and it will open a form designer. Then press control-alt-x and it will bring up a tree view of controls. If you right arrow it will open the tree. The one weird thing is it seems you have to arrow up instead of down to get into the tree. Then just arrow up to button or label or whatever you want on the form and press enter. It will drop you to the form. You can now arrow left and right to place the left top point of tyour control where ever you like. Then if you want to change all the properties for that control you just do alt-enter. I think alt right arrow also works but not sure. If you want to jump by more than one point use control and the arrow key when moving the control. . In our old scripts there were ways of expanding the control and checking to see if it overlapped but so far I don't know if Jaws added it or how they added it. ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:04 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: using Visual Studio 2010 with the new updated JAWS build 12.0.1158 I most certainly will let you know if I find stuff. But maybe then I should more or less ask a question. Since most of the books I have speak in terms of moving the mouse pointer, obviously, I'm going to have to get around that somehow. I'm really curious as to how to work the toolbox in VS2010 and how to correctly add controls to a form as that is one of the things that FS emphasized on their web site. What is currently going on is that I have a project that's a windows form, and when I am pointed at the file named form1.cs, I click view, click designer, and then press alt-control-X to bring up the toolbox. What then happens is that every control in the toolbox is listed as unavailable. I was able to successfully create a simple windows forms app only once in my lifetime, and it'd be great if I could remember where I was pointed to get the correct code to be added to the form. So, my issue may not be a JAWS issue at all, it could just be how to add controls in the context of screen reader output rather than mouse clicks. Thanks. And to clarify once more, when I go to add the button, I find the file from the solution explorer seeing that toolbars are kind of a pain to use. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun Khosla Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:45 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: using Visual Studio 2010 with the new updated JAWS build 12.0.1158 Katherine, I think that the update is largely concerned with improving the basic support for things like intellisense and WPF editor. So there's not much to hunt regarding new features in Jaws for VS2010; you can check whether it correctly works with editors and intellisense. BTW, I've not tried Jaws 12 though with VS2010. But I'm keen to know how much improvement has been made, especially regarding: 1) Intellisense: does it speek method description and parameters types/names (earlier it could speek only method names) as you move between intellisense suggestions. 2) Anoying loss of focus from editor whenever you enter into an intellisense suggestion mode. I must have to press alt twice to get me back on editor regularly which had been very frustrating and physically stressful. Please let us know your findings. Thanks! On 5/4/11, Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi all, > I'm trying to figure out how to utilize the extra support that FS has > included in it's latest build of JAWS for Visual studio 2010. Does > anyone know how to get it to work? The help files haven't been > updated to reflect the changes so, I'm not sure. Thanks for any feedback. > > Katherine > -- Varun __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind