I have now checked nonvisualdevelopment.org, empowermentzone.org and grabbag.alacorncomputers.com and have not found the fruit basket. I thought this was a well known page. Where are jamal, inthane, Sina and Ken today? Is there a conference or a party somewhere??? --le __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind