Hi Marv. You know my answer, c++ wis one of the languages in Visual Studio. As for JAVA, still too many accessibility issues to consider using that language as far as I'm concerned. The Microsoft Project Management software was mentiioned some time ago on the Windoweyes List so it might have problems but I've never used it. I think it used some graphical things like Flowcharting and other graphicas to indicate various project features. Ask on the JAWS and Windoweyes lists about JAVA and the Microsoft Project software since I have seen folks on the Windoweyes list at least ask questions about them and there are the new scripts to work in JAVA. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Marvin Hunkin To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:11 AM Subject: software recommendations Hi. okay looking to take classes in c++ and java. also software design and software testing. and project management. so what is the best software tools to be used. i use jaws 10, windows vista. and is project 2007 accessible with jaws. cheers Marvin.