RE: free and accessible vb compiler?

The characters that aren't there, actually are, and that has to do with the
text editor you are using. So use a good text editor that informs you of
such things rather than hiding them.

As for java: I think you should read some beginning books on java, and you
mentioned you were taking a class, so I would consult your textbook's
section on how to make methods. Understanding how methods, in other
languages: functions, work is sometimes tricky, but it's absolutely
essential, so rather than just hacking at the code until it works, you need
to understand why it said no return type and so on. It's a very simple
problem, but one that will come up again.

As for grabbing character input: I do believe this is actually possible, but
not sure how to do it off hand ... something like a getchar is what you
want.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:08 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: free and accessible vb compiler?

The main problem with java for this is that the command line in Windows
requires that you press enter before it will send the program anything, so
hitting an arrow key to move around a game board cannot happen, unless I
missed something in the responses.
I appreciate the advice and seewhat you are saying; this just seems to not
be possible in Java unless I make a gui and I have no clue how to do that.
I got some code online for making one but it froze EdSharp completely when I
tried to compile and the java cmd line compiler gave me errors that did not
exist, like no return type for main (it was void just as it should have
been) and odd characters being in the file that were not actually there,
like \160.

Have a great day,
Alex

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx
>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:43:36 -0300
>Subject: Re: free and accessible vb compiler?

>Hello Alex,
>You can do it in java, indeed ...  you asked about key hooks and
you
>got a response.  Java can also manage sounds, you just need to
research
>it.  Programmers are always trying to do what nobody already did,
so
>they are always researching and trying things.  If programmers
did what
>was already there then they would not be needed because what have 
>already been done is done.  So far, the main required hability of
a
>programmer is not its techniccal aspect, because one can always
learn
>a new language and such.  The main required hability is its
hability of
>researching and figuring out a way of doing what is needed to be
done.
>So far, if you need to do it in java, go and do it in java
because
>it's what you have to do.  And java, as a advansed language it
is, will
>certainly allow a relatively easy project like your game to be
done
>with no problems.  I think probably if you're going to work with 
>programming one day you will have a task and you won't be allowed
to
>say a, it can't be done using this language, so I will switch to
that
>other I have heard is good for doing this.
>You can get hungry with me and others here for giving you these 
>advices, and personally if you don't like them you just drop me a 
>letter and I am not gonna follow with them, but again the right
way to
>go may be not as easy and the easier way to go can make your
learning
>almost unusefull if you don't follow and acomplish your tasks.
>hth
>Marlon

>2008/2/25, Valiant (on laptop) <valiant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> as far as I know yes indeed they will.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: free and accessible vb compiler?


>>> Will the express edition still allow me to make programs that
can
>>> play sounds and use kbd input?

>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Valiant \(on laptop\)" <valiant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Date sent: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:45:21 -0500
>>>>Subject: Re: free and accessible vb compiler?

>>>>Hi.
>>>>I never did manage to get it to work, but vb express 2007 or
>>> which ever the
>>>>newest one is is free from microsoft.com
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
>>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:53 PM
>>>>Subject: free and accessible vb compiler?


>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> As I cannot do what I want for my battleship game using java I
>>> am thinking
>>>>> of doing the java part to satisfy the requirements for my
>>> computer science
>>>>> class but furthering the game by switching to vb.  I have heard
>>> that vb is
>>>>> the best language for playing sounds, using keyboard input, and
>>> all that.
>>>>> Is there a free and accessible vb compiler? It could even be
>>> command line,
>>>>> like the java compiler from Sun.

>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex
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