Hi all -- I got a certificate in data processing in a separatist school setting back in 1982-83. We learned introductory Basic to see if we had logical abilities and could program, introductory IBM Assembly language, and all the rest COBOL. Not everybody passed the program. One guy had health issues, one guy didn't seem to have the ability, and two other people quit going, so it was not a push-over course. The instruction was very good and the instructors were honest with us. The main instructor would actually read us lines of code to illustrate what she was talking about, instead of using what I call the "this-that" syndrome where the professor would say "This paragraph is performed, and this variable is multiplied by that one..." We also had a business advisory council which was made up of data processing business people from local industry who would come in during our finals times and ask us questions about COBOL and see how we answered. I ended up in the A ranges in my COBOL and currently work fulltime as a programmer, although unfortunately not in COBOL any longer. In summary, if a separatist school is done correctly, it is a very good thing. Bob Smith