Re: SodBeans 2.0 - Duplicate Output under NVDA
- From: Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:57:49 -0500
Kerneels,
Thanks for your thoughts. I actually have one of our really talented
student devs working on this right now. It's possible oracle would be
willing to do something like that, they've certainly put fixes/made
changes into Netbeans for us in the past. We're still investigating
the problem, though, to see what the best solution is. Hopefully we
can make some progress on this one before the 2.5 release.
Stefik
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Kerneels Roos <kerneels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Andreas and list,
>
> Workaround for now is to use another TTS, like the built in one on Win7 and
> it seems that even with NVDA running it stops speaking (NVDA I mean).
>
> I would say the ideal solution would be to request Oracle to add a config
> setting to the JAB, disabling it for the set of listed applications, or main
> classes or any class loaded / instantiated by a given class. SodBeans should
> not have to do a hack to stop the JAB. A quick search didn't show any
> meaningful info on how to disable the JAB in some situations, but it surely
> should be implemented by Oracle -- could be such a simple solution.
>
> The SodBeans installer could append such a line to the JAB config file or
> add the config file if not present. Thereafter SodBeans could manage this
> setting via the config file, with inside SodBeans in some config / setup
> dialog. A check on startup could also prompt for action in this regard --
> many options -- but the real trick should not be a trick but a feature of
> the JAB in my opinion.
>
> Regards,
> Kerneels
>
> On 8/24/2011 2:29 PM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
>>
>> Kerneels,
>>
>> Annoyingly, you get double output when the JAB bridge is installed on
>> NVDA on Sodbeans 2.0. We know about it and are working on a fix behind
>> the scenes for this issue and for several others with various screen
>> reader technologies on various platforms. We're hoping to have a bunch
>> of them in the 2.5 release. Anyway, in the short term, IF you can
>> uninstall the JAB, the problem will go away.
>>
>> Other than that, there might be an NVDA setting to help, although we
>> aren't completely sure. If you find a different work around in the
>> short term, let us know.
>>
>> Stefik
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Kerneels Roos<kerneels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I understand that SodBeans is self voicing when no screen reader is
>>> present,
>>> but if you are running say NVDA, what is the easiest way to stop getting
>>> double voice output: once from NVDA, then from SodBeans itself through
>>> NVDA?
>>> That's what is happening on my system. I have the JAB installed and the
>>> latest SodBeans (2.0).
>>>
>>> I would not want to disable NVDA since I still want the output to go via
>>> NVDA.
>>>
>>> Also, to disable NVDA for this one application, how does one do this?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Kerneels
>>>
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