Re: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

  • From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 07:43:47 -0400

I find the same thing with WindowEyes. I can use most of the features of SSMS 
and picking a DataBase, or accessing data is no problem. I tend to have used 
the tools in vb.net or VWD for my DDL and then just load the DB into the Sql 
Server if I want rather than build the db in SSMS. That said, I have used the 
t-sql and the "Execute Now" methodology of SSMS to muck about with a DataBase 
and it all works ok for the most part. That said, with WidnowEyes, I did have 
to do some mousing around to get some things done.
It could have used some scripting to work better but since it worked well 
enough for my hobbiest needs I never scripted that puppy.
the 2010 versions of everything from Microsoft is switching to WPF and UIA so 
nothing is very accessible with WindowEyes and GW Micro has not provided us 
with any way to script WPF so tme messing with anything past the 2008 versions 
of the modules is out until GW gets it together.
But the 2008 versions of what I have used were all accessible enough to work 
with or to script using WindowEyes and, or, JAWS from what I've read over the 
years.
If you want a ppiece of software to work better you can either script it 
yourself or ask someone to script it for you. If related to a job your local 
State Commision might pay for having it scripted - not sure about that though.
The SSMS does take some getting use to since some things read well, some not so 
well and some you have to use the mouse to read and, or, tweak the UI settings 
to make work better.
You do know you can build DataBases and do some management from inside any of 
the languages like VB.net or C#.net etc...
There might be more documentation on doing this floating around Google. 
I think I have a set of tutorials that have a step by step on building a simple 
database using the IDE of the Visual Web Developer Express. 
Anyway, back to SSMS or SMSSE (The express version might have an E in it - I 
forget). 
It should work enough for you to look around a little and set some things up to 
read better with your screen reader.
Don't forget to maximize any window you are looking at, close any unused 
windows and I think, if you can do it, set windows to be Tabbed Windows but 
others on list can give you more info on that since I don't use JAWS.
Thats
  all I have for now.
  Rick USA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rodney Haynie 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:17 AM
  Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio


  Well I guess people will have different experiences on different computers. 
That is often the case with so many hardware configurations. I know with VS2010 
I was experiencing issues that other people were not.

   

  I say this because for what I use SSMS (2008 r2) for, I have no problems. I 
am not a DBA, but I use it for creating editing, deleting stored procedures, 
databases, tables, triggers, etc.

   

  I am in SSMS for multiple hours a day, mostly doing things like writing and 
executing SQL statements to query data.

   

  There are some small work-around I have found, but the tree view is not an 
issue at all for me. I can drill down through the server name, and go through 
databases, and tables, and columns within the tables, etc. I can then drill 
back upwards with no problems in the tree view. This is all with JAWS 12. I 
think I started using SSMS in SQL Server 2005 with JAWS 10. Before that I was 
using SQL Server 2000 mostly.

   

  My current computer is Windows 7 64 bit with JAWS 12.

   

  Take care.

  Rodney

   

   

  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:28 PM
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: RE: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

   

  From the experience I have with it, it's relatively accessible.  The only 
pain in the neck you'll run into is that it has issues keeping you in the 
correct level of the tree view, and whenever you open a node, you can close it, 
but you have to log out of it and back in to see the node above it.  Don't ask 
me why that is.  It's a royal pain,but, it's workable.  Maybe a few of us at 
once should report it considering it's been ignored for the past few years now. 
  

   

  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:21 PM
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: SQL Server 2008 R2 ManagerStudio

   

  Any thoughts on accessibility of same with JAWS Version 12.x?

   

  T I A!

   

  Mike Freeman

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