Re: Naked Objects - Automatic Web UIs for blind programmers
- From: Jacques Bosch <jfbosch@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 07:52:32 +0200
Hi K.
True about the performance, but I think in very many situations this
performance hit is academic, and will be marginal in the real world.
My thoughts.
No I haven't looked at CSLA.Net, but here is quite an interesting
forum post of it compared to Naked Objects.
http://forum.nakedobjects.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3268
Jacques
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Kerneels Roos <kerneels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Jacques, definitely something to look into. The advantage of tools
> that generate files once as aposed to a dynamic scenario is of course speed
> since you compile the generated files.
>
> Once you've learn't how to work this naked objects MVC you could easily
> create an enhanced fruit basket I suppose, with some parent child
> relationships. Have you looked at the CSLA.Net framework? There are
> Codesmith templates that will auto generate all the DAL (data access layer)
> classes, and the purely business classes all for you in one go provided you
> have set up foreign key constraints in your data model, your SQL database.
> Now they claim also to create a sort of admin web or Silverlight GUI, but
> Ihaven't managed to do this with the templates at the time I looked at them.
> Cheers
>
> On 12/2/2010 1:58 PM, Jacques Bosch wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> While investigating tools for really rapid application development
>> (RAD) I came across this most interesting framework called Naked
>> Objects MVC.
>> Rather than retyping what it does, here is the 3 line description from the
>> site:
>> "Naked Objects MVC combines the power of the naked objects pattern
>> with Microsoft's ASP.NET MVC 2 framework.
>> Now you can take a POCO domain object model and turn it into a
>> fully-functional web application in minutes, without writing a single
>> line of user interface code.
>> You can then customise the generic user interface by adding custom
>> style sheets, custom views and custom controllers, following standard
>> ASP.NET patterns."
>>
>> The URL is www.nakedobjects.net
>>
>> Since the UI is dynamically generated from the domain model (classes)
>> a blind developer could write an entire system, or a vast majority of
>> it in C# and not have to worry about creating a UI. I think this is
>> pretty powerful stuff, even for sighted developers. Note, it does not
>> generate a UI to static files, like some other tools do, it in stead
>> dynamically generates the UI at runtime. It therefore reeds to be
>> installed on the server hosting the MVC web application.
>> A developer license costs $399, but there is a fully functional
>> evaluation version that can be used as long as you want. Only when
>> taking it into production would you have to buy a license.
>>
>> This technology has also been matured over quite a few years and has
>> been proven in production.
>> Although I have not yet used Naked Objects myself, the guy behind
>> Naked Objects, Richard Pawson, has been extremely helpful in answering
>> my questions.
>>
>> Currently it does not support AJAX, but seems like they have plans to
>> completely AJAXify the dynamic UI in the next year to make it more
>> performant and snappy for internet based applications.
>>
>> You can also checkout the forums: forum.nakedobjects.net
>>
>> It requires Visual Studio 2010 (or 2010 Express) and .Net framework 4.0.
>>
>> Anyway, I just thought this would be of particular interest to this list.
>>
>> Have fun.
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