Re: Hi Bryan
- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:24:57 -0500
hi,
the intellisense did not work / work correctly until i deleted those files,
closed jaws 10, restarted jaws again and went into vb.net express 2008.
the other questions can be answered when you read the list of keys that trigger
jamals scripts.
i haven't had the chance to compare functionality before and after installing
the scripts because i haven't found the config names file yet and the
documentation doesn't completely say where to find the file.
instruction:
Since Freedom Scientific installs a JAWS script set with the base name of
"msenv" for Visual Studio 2003, the base name of "msenv2005" is used for these
scripts supporting the 2005 or 2008 versions of Visual Studio. In order for
JAWS to load them, an entry has to be added to the ConfigNames.ini file, either
in the User scripts folder or the All Users scripts folder. If a file by that
name does not already exist, create one that includes the following lines:
[ConfigNames]
msenv=msenv2005
Bryan Schulz
----- Original Message -----
From: Celia Rodriguez
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:23 AM
Subject: Hi Bryan
Hi Bryan,,
Did you have to delete the msenv.* files from JAWS 10.0? If so, what
problems did you come across that made you have to delete the files? Also,
after installing the JAWS scrip's and completing the JAWS and Visual Studio
setup instructions, can you tell me , from your experience, what are some of
the changes you noticed in the Visual Studio environment.
One more question, if you don't mind, have you come across how to know
exactly were the pc cursor is on a line? For example if I put my pc JAWS
cursor on an comment line I want to know what line and column it is on.
For example: if I put my cursor on the first / I want to know that it is on
line 1 column 1 second / line 1 column 2
Thanks,
Celia
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:56 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: code window
here:
folks forget that the scripts are the same for 2005 as for 2008:
Executable Visual Studios 2005 self installer
http://www.empowermentzone.com/msenv2005.exe
Or, for a zip file containing the Script files:
Visual Studios 2005 Zip Archive
http://www.empowermentzone.com/msenv2005.zip
elf
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: code window
thanks but that's what i was referring to.
been there and didn't find the actual scripts.
Bryan Schulz
----- Original Message -----
From: The Elf
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: code window
if you go to my grabbag site there is a document for setting the VS IDE
interface for better usability, and I will attempt to round up my assorted VS
notes, try to cut out the duplicates and put them up there as well, although
there totally unedited my file names usually tell you what the main thing in
the document is, somewhere in it!
elf
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: RicksPlace
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: code window
Hi Brian:
That is the Output Window that holds the Error Window stuff. You can
never get rid of it totally from my experience but you can reduce it's impact
on your work by doing a few things.
The options you want to play with are in the Options TreeView for the
IDE.
You get there from the Menu Bar:
Tools>Options: Hit enter:
The Options TreeView comes up and you can up or down cursor tto get on
a tabbable item then,
Tab and make sure Show All Settings checkbox is checked.
Tab back to the list of Tabbed Items and,
Under TextEditor:
Under VB specific:
Tab and uncheck auto insert of end constructs, pretty listing, enable
auto error correction Suggestions.
Then tab and click OK or continue to set the options for CSharp,
Under the CSharp:
Under Advanced:
Underline Errors In the Editor, show live symantic errors, perhaps the
others.
Also,
Under Intellisense:
Set the appropriate options for how you want it to work.
When done you tab and hit ok on any Tabbed item and all the changes
will be applied. You also should have made other changes to the IDE to make it
more Screen Reader friendly and set each and every window you encounter to a
Tabbed Document if you use that approach.
It has been a long time since I played with the IDE settings, I have
them set the way I like them using Windoweyes and I did not set the CSharp
options since I do not use CSharp anymore.
You should do the following:
Make a change to one or two of the settings at a time. Record the
change in a text document so you can note what it does as you continue working
and, or set everything back if you want to later.
Keep results of each change in the text document for a reference as to
what each setting did when changed.
Send me the text document when done so I can add the results to my docs
for other users downline.
I do not think you will ever totally get rid of the Output Window but
you should be able to work-around it pretty well. I think there are some other
settings that might help but these are the ones I remember by taking a quick
peek at my settings in Visual Web Developer.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:54 AM
Subject: code window
hi all,
So who had two days in the pool of when will he ask about the
irritating code window?
using vb.net 2008 express:
i thought i had it beat by reclassing it to multi line edit and that
is a start but you can't code one f'n letter wrong or complete a line before
the error alert pops up.
so how can you get any coding done and how you move up/down the list
of options after you type a period like txtUserName.xxxxx?
Bryan Schulz
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