Hi. well, sort of fixed it any way. a whole bunch of pictures and text lables underneath the picture and you had to concatonate your name to the end of the message, underneath the picture box in the picture box control. so was trying to do the following: lblMessageLabel.text = "Light bulb is on" & lblNameLabel but vb was complaining about not liking the & property to a label control. so just aded my name in the text, using a comma, and as i cannot see the image, well, that was what i was after. and then had a look at an example i found, and use that for reference in the future. sorry to have bothered you. cheers Marvin. ps: well, on another list, some one pointed out about aligning controls. and to select a control or set of controls, and then to use the format option in vb, to align and set my controls, and align them left, bottom, and then snap to grid. and made the mistake of selecting the whole form, and the options were greyed out. so, by using the shift or control down arrow on a control, then it it is selected , i hope, or how am i supposed to highlight a control without using a mouse? will go and see now. cheers Marvin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Concatonation Query Marv Wrote: how do i add a variable like a label to the text property? A Label is a control, not a variable. What Text Property are you thinking of adding whatever you mean to? For example, you have a text property for a Label Control, or TextBox etc... not just a stand alone Text Property unrelated to something. You can not add anything to a Text Property unless you know what Control the Text Property is related to. MyControl.Text = "ABC" is correct: .Text = "ABC" is incorrect. So, tell me what you mean if you can. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: Concatonation Query > Hi. > how do i add a variable like a label to the text property? > tried looking in msdn help. > and tried looking through all my eexamples. > but cannot seem to find any thing. > so, how do i say add together a message with my name? > cheers Marvin. > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind