[program-java] Re: [program-java]

  • From: Anna Giller <anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:40:02 -0500

They did nottake it as a bug yet, they just escalated it for research. I
have an issue number as follows:
#193146.

Anna




 -----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J. R. Westmoreland
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:12 PM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

Did they give you a BugID? 

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-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:24 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

Susie,

It's a problem for JAWS both 10 and 11.
As I said before, I reported about this problem to Freedom Scientific, they
escalated it to their development team, but you know how slow they are.
If several people report the same problem, it goes faster, so call them.

Anna



-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
Kansas City, MO
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:47 AM
To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

This is not a Jaws 11 problem. I am using 10 on an xp machine. Since I have
just started in eclipse I had 10 at that time.

Susie Stanzel 

-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sérgio Neves
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:23 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

Hi,
It's a strange problem indeed.
I've found this problem when Jaws 11 was released, with jaws demo mode, but 
I haven't said nothing to this list because I thought freedomscientific 
would correct this in a next jaws 11 release. In jaws 11 news, they say that

jaws is better with eclipse, but this is not what I'm seeing.
I didn't report it to freedomscientific because I didn't buy jaws 11, but 
it's incredible how a high-cost screen reader  don't have this bug fixed at 
release time. Don't they make tests to software?
What I'm going to say is a constructive criticism, not a destructive one. Do

you notice that, at each release of JAWS, there is always something boring 
that is not correctly made? And this something is easy to test. How do you 
explain that, with so many people testing jaws and reporting bugs (probably 
more than in orca screen reader), these bugs are not corrected? I don't 
believe no one hasn't discovered this jaws bug in eclipse before me.
Sorry if I was indelicate, but I think these things have to be said to our 
benefit, to have a better JAWS screen reader.

Best regards,
Sérgio Neves
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anna Giller" <anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:25 PM
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]


JR,

I've reported this issue to Freedom Scientific. It would probably be helpful
if you tell them that you're experiencing the same thing.
They told me that the communication between JAWS and Java got changed after
JAWS9. Do you know what do they mean?

Thank you,
Anna




-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J. R. Westmoreland
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:23 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

I see the same thing with jaws 11. I can't go back as far as jaws 9 to
check. Windows 7, you know. <grin>

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-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:37 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

Susie,

Is it only in Eclipse or everywhere?
I got the same problem when reading a treeview in Eclipse using JAWS11.
For some reason JAWS9 is fine.

Anna

-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
Kansas City, MO
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:33 AM
To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

When I am reading a tree view my jaws reads what I am leaving and what I am
coming to. Is there a setting I should change?

Susie Stanzel

-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:26 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

1. Why does my Eclipse open where I left off yesterday. This might be great,
but when I am just frustrated and want to start from the beginning, this is
agrivating.

...that is the default behavior and I haven't found a way to change it in
nearly six years of using Eclipse.

2. Using alt + w + v + p I have the thing saying my source is open after I
have hit enter on it. How do I then get from that to my actual source?

...with those key strokes you are placed in a tree view.... Using the right
arrow key will expand the node you are on. Left arrow key will colloapse the
node. Up and down arrow keys will move you in the prescribed direcction.
Once you have located the file in question just hit enter. If you want to be
more specific with the class, again use the arrow keys right and left.

3. How do I compile the source?

...in the document that I wrote, that Anna provided there is a section on
that topic.

4. How do I run the object?

...see the comment above.

Compiling and running in Textpad was so simple. It was just control + 1 or
control + 2.

5. I am part of a class and the class was using Eclipse and the class saw
right away when something incorrect was typed. I doubt we do, but does a
JAWS user have such a luxury?

...not at the moment but I'm trying to get my head around scripting and
should have something in a little while.

Please be patient. I might have more questions.

Susie
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:30 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

...ah it's nice to have friends, once upon a time I had friends but either
they stole my money or girl friends.... So now I go it alone.

J.

-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
Kansas City, MO
Sent: October 7, 2009 12:24
To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

A friend found it for me on the internet. She won't be back until tomorrow.
I can let you know then.

-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:10 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

Susan:

Where did you come across this jem?

J.


-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
Kansas City, MO
Sent: October 7, 2009 11:54
To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]

Hi Everyone,

I am pasting Eclipse access information below my name. Maybe this is old to
you, but it wasn't to me. I am just beginning.

Susie

The user interface is navigable using the keyboard. The Tab key is used to
iterate through the controls in a particular scope (for example, a dialog or
a view and its related icons). To navigate to the main controls for the
Workbench window or to tab out of views that use the Tab key (such as
editors) use Ctrl+Tab.

Menus

Most menus are assigned mnemonics for each entry which allow you to select
them by typing the underlined letter instead of the mouse. You can also
select an item by moving through the menus and sub-menus with the arrow
keys.

The various menus available can be accessed using the keyboard in the
following ways:

F10 accesses the menus on the main menu bar.

Shift+F10 pops up the context menu for the current view. (Note: this
Shift+shortcut is actually dependent on your window manager, but for
Shift+most people it should be Shift+F10.)

Ctrl+F10 will open the pull down menu for the current view if there is one.
For editors, Ctrl+F10 will open the menu for the marker bar on the left of
the editor area.

Alt+mnemonic will activate the Workbench menu for a particular entry (e.g.,
Alt+W will bring down the Window menu).

Microsoft Windows only: Pressing Alt will give focus to the menu bar.

Controls

Mnemonics are assigned to most control labels (e.g., buttons, checkboxes,
radio buttons, etc.) in dialog boxes, preference pages, and property pages.
To access the control associated with a label, use the Alt key along with
the letter that is underlined in the label.

Navigation Context

Navigation context is saved for the packages, navigator views, Workbench
preferences and properties dialogs. The selected page for the preferences
and properties dialog is saved between invocations of the dialog but are not
saved between workbench invocations.

Cycling Editors, Views and Perspectives

To switch between editors, views and perspectives, the workbench provides a
cycling function that is invoked by Ctrl and a function key. All of these
cycling functions recall the last thing selected to allow for rapid cycling
back and forth between two items. The cycling functions are

Ctrl+F6 - Cycle to Editor

Ctrl+F7 - Cycle to View

Ctrl+F8 - Cycle to Perspective

Also, Ctrl+E can be used to activate the editor drop-down, and Ctrl+PageUp
and Ctrl+PageDown can be used for switching between the open editors.

Accelerators

Many of the actions in Eclipse have an accelerator assigned to them. For
additional information on accelerators, see Keys.

Quick Access

To quickly access UI elements such as views, commands, preference pages, and
others, you can use the Quick Access dialog, available under Window >
Navigation > Quick Access and bound to Ctrl+3 by default. Start typing in
the filter field to see matches. For example, to open the help view, type
Ctrl+3 followed by "help". One of the first matches will be to open the help
view; other matches show commands and preference pages related to help. You
can use the arrow keys to select a different match for a given filter
string. Press Enter to select the highlighted entry. This will execute the
command, or open the view, perspective, or wizard etc.

Help system

You can navigate the help system by keyboard using the following key
combinations:

Pressing Tab inside a frame (page) takes you to the next link, button or
topic node.

To expand/collapse a tree node, press Right/Left arrows.

To move to the next topic node, press Down arrow or Tab

To move to the previous topic node, press Up arrow or Shift+Tab

To display selected topic, press Enter.

To scroll all the way up or down press Home or End.

To go back press Alt+Left arrow; to go forward press Alt+Right arrow.

To go to the next frame, or toolbar press Ctrl+Tab (Ctrl+F6, if using
Mozilla, or Mozilla based browser).

To move to previous frame, press Shift+Ctrl+Tab. (Shift-Ctrl+F6, if using
Mozilla, or Mozilla based browser).

To move to the frame displaying topic content press Alt+K (when using
embedded help browser on Windows, or Internet Explorer).

To move to Contents tab, press Alt+C

To move to Search Results tab, press Alt+R

To move between tabs, press Right/Left arrows.

To switch view, select a tab and press Enter.

To switch and move to a view, select a tab and press Up arrow.

To move to the search entry field, press Alt+S

To print the current page or active frame, press Ctrl+P.

To find a string in the current page or active frame, press Ctrl+F (when
using embedded help browser on Windows, or Internet Explorer).

Most labels of controls on help system pop-up dialogs have mnemonics are
assigned to them. To access the control associated with a label, use the Alt
key along with the letter that is underlined.



Accessibility features in Eclipse


________________________________

From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:40 PM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: [program-java]



Jim,



It's great, but it's exactly what Susie advised you to do, she even sent the
explaination document.



Anna



________________________________

From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:30 PM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java]



Here's another way of formatting the string portion:

return String.format("%05d", recLen);

I ended up using the above and by strongly impressing upon the COBOL people
the error of there ways when defining the field as a numeric I got my own
way. ....and I only had to hold my breath for 10 minutes. Sometimes when you
don't have to look at the bewildered looks upon others faces you can
accomplish lots.

Jim



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