-=PCTechTalk=- Re: anti virus :VSMail mx3
- From: James LaBorde <jlaborde@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:10:55 -0700
I've used all the major anti-virus software and the winner as far as
protection and computer resources used has to be Panda. I recently had a
user get two virii at work that Panda caught even before the Firewall
company's software was able to.
Panda has a few major advantages over Norton in my book:
1. Although earlier versions of Panda were very resource intense, the
software has improved drastically and you will notice a significant
difference under Panda and under Norton.
2. Auto-update - Panda's new signature file is ready and can be configured
to pick up automatically first thing EVERY morning. Norton only updates
their Live-Update file once a week or if there is a news-worthy virus out.
3. Unlike Symantec (Norton), Panda actually supports their product. They
don't tell you to shell out $29.97 for a tech support call to fix something
that is a problem with the software.
4. Panda has the best record of catching virii that I have encountered. It
also seems to be much better able to disinfect the files than Norton.
5. Panda plays much nicer with existing software than Norton. I actually
had Norton wipe out a VPN set up when installed. Whatever it changed could
not be fixed by a mere uninstall. The computer had to be completely
reformatted and set up from scratch.
6. Panda actually scans files inside of zips, cab and other compressed file
formats. Norton may claim to in some versions but a check of the number of
files scanned by both programs will quickly tell you which is better.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: Wyatt M. Portendt [mailto:nunyabidness6@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:15 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: anti virus :VSMail mx3
AVG has heuristics as well and they help, but, yes, they cannot be
considered foolproof. I suppose that I've been lucky by design here,
because, frankly, I don't get that many attempts. Using secure
paractices/policies, updating *regularly*, scanning *regularly*, and not
using insecure software (except Windows), AVG has done the job quite well
for all who use it here.
On 8/4/2003 at 2:50 PM a whisper was heard, and the one known as David
Weaver was rumoured to have uttered....
| I only disagree with one part: "Even the best
| antivirus program won't
| catch the new virus before the definitions are updated"
|
| Heuristic scanning has the ability to block new viruses. Is
it
| foolproof, no, but it has saved my ass.
|
| Dave
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wyatt M.
| Portendt
| Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:17 PM
| To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: anti virus
|
|
| Here as well. No question that Norton's is the best or that
| McAfee's is
| highly overrated. Norton's is also the most expensive and
| most hard on
| computer resources. I think the biggest problem people have
| with AVG is
| that they forget that it *can* catch virii on the fly, but
| that to be
| effective it HAS to be updated REGULARLY and that it has to do
| a full
| scan REGULARLY to catch those dormant ones.
|
| Here, not many attempts get through due to safe computing
| practices.
| However, a few attempts lately have been caught before they
| hit the
| system via my "mail to me" filters in Mailwasher and due to
| the fact
| that Calypso is a plain text email program, renames *every*
| attachment
| and has an
| *encrypted* addressbook. Even the best antivirus program
| won't catch
| the new virus before the definitions are updated or the
| dormant ones
| before the payload is activated. Antivirus protection, like
| trojan
| protection, is a *policy*, not an installed solution.
|
| HTML mail (with or without preview) is a risk. OE, Windows,
| and Outlook
| address books are a risk. Spam and redirects via email are a
| risk.
| Attachments that come inline or without renaming (ANY
| attachment) are a
| risk. Websites and web bugs on a system that allows *any*
| scripting are
| a risk. Active X is a risk. You have to attack a multiple
| capability
| problem with a multi-front policy if you really want to be
| safe.
|
| Before you argue, consider that on three machines here and
| three others
| in different places - all using the same policy - no virus or
| trojan has
| successfully run for over three years. You need a good
| Antivirus and
| you need a good trojan scanner, but if you want to be really
| safe, you
| need a good surfing and email policy. With the new breed of
| virii, by
| the time the AV catches it, it may be too late.
|
| On 8/3/2003 at 3:19 PM a whisper was heard, and the one known
| as kg6ocz
| was rumoured to have uttered....
|
| | Wellllllllllll I think there is a downside to
| | almost every program.. This
| | same site recommends Panda which I tried and it
| slowed down
| my
| | computer SO
| | bad I had to dump it..I wouldn't touch McAfee
| with a ten
| foot
| | pole--it let
| | too much stuff thru. Several of things listed as
| Cons for
| AVG
| | I haven't
| | found to be true at all..So I think it's the same
| thing..each
| | to his own..
| | ----- Original Message -----
| | From: "Grant Karpik" <gkarpik@xxxxxxxxx>
| | To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| | Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 2:21 PM
| | Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: anti virus
| |
| |
| | > On 3 Aug 2003 at 11:17, kg6ocz wrote:
| | >
| | > > Wellll my first question would be because it
| on some
| web
| | site does that
| | > > mean what they say is TRUE? only ONE web
| site? And WHO
| is
| | saying it?
| | > > Now if I was researching trusted web sites
| and 8 out of
| 10
| | made such a
| | > > statement I would think maybe there might be
| some
| | validity..but some web
| | > > site somewhere doesn't prove a THING.
| | >
| | > A number of serious (as opposed to places like
| Cnet or
| | ZDnet) ant-virus
| | sites rate AVG
| | > as being pretty poor in their tests. Here's
one:
| | >
| | >
| |
|
http://www.software-antivirus.com/program/avg-antivirus-review.html
| | >
| | >
| | >
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| | > "A good end cannot sanctify evil means; nor
| must we ever
| do
| | evil that good
| | > may come of it"
| | >
| | > ...William Penn, 1683
| | >
| | > Grant Karpik
| | > gkarpik@xxxxxxxxx
| | >
| | >
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