yes i investigated early on in this thread when Bob or Sue passed THIS link along....to me . http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm i needed to understand whether i had the viral version of PTSNOOP or the MODEM version in start up... PTSNOOP has nothing to do with Nortons my friend.... Man .... GMAN ... i saw your answer and panicked ( i wanted to contact you privately and let you know your underware was hangin out ( or big booger hangin out the nose ...take your pick )...but i couldnt find a personal addy ) .................clickninny To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/