Hi Hank, No, I'm not forgetting that at all. My approach is to have Mikey identify the items in the Startup tab PRIOR to unchecking anything more. Even if we uncheck all of them, we still won't know which oddly named items control which functions. By looking them up, Mikey will learn exactly which files control which functions and will be better prepared to handle similar situations in the future. I'm doing it this way because when I started this group, I meant for it to be used as a place for folks to learn about computers rather than an answer column. As a result, my focus will always be to try and find a way to teach the How's and Why's rather than just give the answer to the problem without any explanation or understanding behind it (at least whenever it's possible). :O) Peace, G Man PCTechTalk Owner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry" <hdka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: [Re: odd problem] Are you forgeting that if you uncheck everything but the systray and explorer. all that will happen is the programs don't load at startup. Then you can find the ones you want to load. Hank To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/