-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Now it's urgent
- From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:42:00 -0600
Gman...I have his permission to install my hard drive as a slave drive in
his computer. I'll watch for your instructions.
Again, thanks for all your research and help,
Sammi
Sammi wrote:
> Gman wrote:
>> Sammi,
>> To do an actual Repair install would require a WinXP SP3 Home
>> install CD
>> and I seriously doubt anyone near you has one of those. So,
>>
>> We have several choices for getting it back to how it was before
>> the
>> removal of the file.
>>
>> One approach would be to remove the hard drive and install it as a
>> Slave (or
>> second) drive in another system running an NT based OS (NT, 2000, XP
>> or
>> Vista) just long enough to copy the files to where they belong. Then
>> return
>> it to your own system where it'll be ready to boot. In my opinion,
>> this
>> would be the easiest way to return it to working condition. If such
>> a 'helper' system exists, let me know and I'll provide more detailed
>> instructions.
>
> I do have access to another XP Home updated to SP3. If I screw it up,
> I
> won't live to regret it...LOL. I have no idea if it is physically
> possible
> to install it as a slave drive; nor have I done anything like that for
> years. I would probably have to have help, can't see as well anymore.
> But,
> that could be managed by blackmail or bribery.
>
> His system is a year or two newer than mine, with dual core. It is
> also a
> Dell. If we go this route, I'll have to have step by step directions.
> I'm
> concerned about the extra cables and if there is a place for them.
> But, I
> know you'll be guiding me/us...so if you are willing to do that, I'll
> get
> his permission to do that.
>>
>> Another option would be to boot to a special type of CD that can read
>> NTFS
>> and allow you to copy those two files into the correct locations on
>> the
>> drive. To do this would require that you either already have or are
>> able to
>> create such a CD. There are plenty of options such as BartPE,
>> MiniPE, Techie's Toolkit, etc., but the easiest to make would likely
>> be the BartPE
>> disk. It requires a retail WinXP install disk to create one of these
>> and
>> you'll need access to another XP system on which to create and burn
>> your
>> result. If you already have anything like this, let me know and
>> we'll see
>> if there's a way to use it for this type of access. The link below
>> will
>> explain the concept better.
>>
>> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>
> Again, I could create and burn on the other XP system that I have
> access to,
> but do not have the retail XP CD.
>>
>> The UBCD4Windows (Ultimate Boot CD for Windows) would also work well
>> for
>> this. It sports a Windows GUI so you'll feel right at home using it
>> to
>> Copy/Paste the necessary file to its location. It also requires a
>> retail
>> WinXP install disk to create.
>>
>> http://www.ubcd4win.com/index.htm
>>
>> Let me know if any of this sounds 'do-able' and we'll go from
>> there.
>
> Thank you for the links and for your researching. I think that not
> being
> able to borrow an XP retail CD, well...maybe borrow any XP install CD
> is
> going to be my stumbling block. So at this point, your first
> suggestion is
> probably the one to attempt first.
>
> Holding my breath,
> Sammi
>
>>
>> Peace,
>> Gman
>>
>> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:03 PM
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Now it's urgent
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gman,
>>>
>> ...
>>> My system was a factory install, XP Home SP2 in 2005, I have updated
>>> to the
>>> SP3 with no problems, and all other MS updates. I don't recall
>>> getting an install disk like we used to with W98; those days we got
>>> a reboot and recovery diskette and the install CD. But, I will have
>>> to go and unearth the
>>> computer boxes of CSs, extra parts, etc. That may take me some time
>>> to complete, surely they would have sent something. But someone told
>>> me they reserved a place on the hard drive to restore by...however,
>>> if you can't get
>>> into it then it sure won't be of much use.
>>>
>>> I did go to the Dell site, but my free support ended on the 4th of
>>> this month. Bah, humbg. The forum was very confusing, and last time
>>> I had a problem they were more wrong than they were right.
>>>>
>> ...
>>>
>>> I don't recall for sure with File System it uses, I'm thinking
>>> NTFS...but my
>>> thinker is not reliable. I don't know how else to find out. I ran
>>> the SIW, but never printed it out.
>>>
>>> I think I do have a W98 SE CD, I'll have to look to make sure it is
>>> not just
>>> the upgrade disk. If I were to put in the CD and try it, would it
>>> mess things up worse? I read someplace yesterday that you can make
>>> things "dirty"
>>> and have a much worse problem.
>>>
>>> I don't know of anyone local who might have an XP install disk that
>>> I could
>>> borrow either. And I am thinking that since my warranty expired on
>>> the 4th,
>>> they most likely won't be sending me one. Even if I could figure out
>>> how to
>>> get through their phone menu to talk to a real person.
>>>
>>> At this point, I have not tried anything other than rebooting it; I
>>> was fearful of making it worse. Actually, I did try going into Safe
>>> Mode, but it
>>> was just a repeat of the log on/log off loop. And I tried the 'last
>>> known working config', with the same results.
>> ...
>>> You asked for the links I went to, lordy I don't remember now. I
>>> just Googled for SpyBot changed the userinit.exe....I think. Then I
>>> started clicking and reading. The most sensible fixes (to my mind)
>>> called for putting in the XP install disk and copying two files:
>>> userinit.exe and wsaupdate.exe; exit and remove CD, very shortened
>>> version.
>>> Had I known for sure that I had the dratted CD, I probably would
>>> have tried
>>> it.
>> ..
>>>
>>> Bless you Gman, for your help and *your* patience! I'll be going
>>> through those boxes and sorting things out. It may take a while
>>> unless I get lucky;
>>> I used to help others fix their old machines and my grandsons and I
>>> would cobble systems together for them to practice on. Yard sales
>>> and give-aways.
>>>
>>> Thank you - thank you!
>>> Sammi
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