Lionel. If I'm not mistaken, those two programs are used when your browser is open. Browser meaning Internet Explorer or say, Firefox, like I use. These programs are used in the viewing of animations in web pages. My thinking is that since you have already installed the program, your World Time Clocks should work without you having to open up Flashplayer first. Of course, I could be WAAAAY off base here, and if so I sincerely apologize for my ignorance. If you want to find a program that is installed go into "Program Files" and it should be in there. Hope I have been helpful. Scott. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lionel" <percy10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Flash Player. Hi. I want to install a Program called ' World Time Clocks.' It says I have to have Flash Player . I installed it but where it it kept , can't find it , also Shockwave. Lionel. -- --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0546-3, 11/16/2005 Tested on: 11/16/2005 3:46:16 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/