Be aware that even at Wal-mart the cheap cruddy accesories for the IPod and Zune are expensive. And the decent quality stuff will quickly add up to the price of a new IPod or even more. If all you need is an easy to hold and use player with a good sized screen for easy viewing and the capability to play lots of music and maybe some videos, you won't do better than the 2, 4 or 8 GB Philips (http://tinyurl.com/5tdb42). The first row of devices are the smaller sized products, scroll down a bit to the larger ones. Any MP3 player can be "docked" with any audio device that has an aux audio input with a 3.5mm jack. Including many Ipod docking stations. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Southerland" <larrysoutherland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- A contrarian opinion... > Although I'm sure that the Zune is a fine machine, after having researched > the issue of which mp3 player/video player to purchase late last year, I > purchased an Apple iPod Nano because (1) of the number of accessories and > accessory devices available for the iPod series and (2) the fact that the > iPod could be "docked" to my receiver (a Pioneer) and controlled by it. > (There is also the fact that there are a lot of books available on getting > the most from one's iPod. Also, the iPods also have built-in PDA > functionality which is very nice.) I don't know whether "expandability" > is > important for your father, but it is at least something to consider.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Gillean > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:41 PM > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Need Some Advice ... > > I have to agree with Rudy. > I have the 80Gb and it is a great little machine and the sound is = > wonderful. > It is the size of the Apple Classic but is less expensive and resists > scratches on its face much better than the Apples do (Different plastic > formulation perhaps?). > The 30 Gb Zune is equally good. > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rudy > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:54 PM > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: Need Some Advice ...=20 > > Zune is your answer, I have one and really like it. Yes, it is bigger = > than=20 > most, Ipod, etx..much bigger and it is easy to use. Mine is a 30GB, = > plays FM > > radio, 3.5" lcd, videos, podcasts and mp3s of course. Battery life is 12 = > > hours. Thinking about getting the 80GB and putting mine on eBay. > =20 > http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/zune-30gb-brown/4505-6490_7-32103045.= > htm > lRudy----- Original Message -----From: "*=C7=F5$m=EF=A2*" = > <Cosmic@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: > "!!~*G's Tech*~!!" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Friday, April 04, = > 2008 > 8:23 PMSubject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Need Some Advice ...> In june = > father's day is > coming; yes it is rather far but want to beprepared lol My Brothers and = > I > decided to get Dad a New PC as well as an mp3Player; We have the PC = > taken > care of(I am building it) But the mp3 playerhas us stumped b\c most are > small; as in small like a credit card .. We needsomething that would be = > easy > to read an Operate .> Any Ideas ?? I love mineI got a bit ago; but like = > I > said it is Small an not sure he would have thedexterity to use it ..>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------> Please > remember to trim your replies (including this sentence andeverything = > below > it) and adjust the subject line as necessary.>> To unsubscribe or change > your email settings:> http > ://www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk>> To access our Archives:> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/> > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/>> To contact only the PCTT = > Mod > Squad, write to:> pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ---------------------------------------------------------------> > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and = > everything > below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. > > To unsubscribe or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: > pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and > everything > below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. > > To unsubscribe or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: > pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 > http://www.iolo.com > > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this outgoing message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 > http://www.iolo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and > everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. > > To unsubscribe or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: > pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. 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