I've been working with Sandi to try and figure out why so many of her messages are bouncing for a little more than an hour or so. It looks like one of Google's servers (GMail) is being completely blocked by one of the subcontracted Spam filter companies. These are companies that sell themselves as a Spam remover to ISPs and other email servers (including the free ones). Well, if the entire GMail server is being blocked, that means Sandi is probably not the only person having problems. If this also applies to you and you've been unable to get anything through to the group, rest assured that we ARE aware of the problem. The problem with this is that this has nothing to do with anything that PCTT or Freelists can control, other than to try to get in touch with ISPs, Google and other email services in an almost futile attempt to help the powers that be track any of this down. Anyone who has ever tried to get a straight answer from, say Yahoo for example, should immediately understand what I mean by that. So, if you are one of the folks who are receiving bounce reports when you try to send something to the group, please try to get in touch with your own ISP and tell them what's going on so that they can look into it. There is one part of the bounce report that indicates that the blocked IP is 66.249.92.168. This has been confirmed to me as one of Gmail's servers. It is being blocked by a Spam filtering service run by www.ordb.org. The full error message (but not the entire report) is shown below. PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 12): 553 5.3.0 Rejected as possible spam - your server 64.233.166.181 is in blacklist http://www.ordb.org - contact your company or provider postmaster to fix Peace, G --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------