I found this page a few months ago when your website went offline. I was relieved to know there was an alternate means of managing my subscription since your website was down. I'm glad you mentioned it again as I never bookmarked it. ++++++++++++++++++++ In addition to existing pages, I have just learned that the list has a page created by freelists.org to make you subscription easy to manage. It is to be found here: //www.freelists.org/list/pchelpers ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Wow, this is easy I couldn't make head nor tails out of the other one. Pen -- -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.