[patriots] Why this is important for non-believers.
- From: john TIMBRELL <johntimbrell@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:08:30 +0000
The real reason for all Butler Sloss's recommendation is slipped in way down,
I quote.
Its central recommendation is for a national consultation exercise to draw up a
21st Century equivalent to the Magna Carta to define the values at the heart of
modern Britain instead of the Government’s controversial “British values”
requirements.
This is what it is all about. Our constitution is based on the Christian Church
and our common law depends on there being a God.This woman is corrupt. She
talks about the rights of women and discusses Sharia courts held in this
country without mentioning that they are illegal.Further it is no use you
looking to the christian church to address the problem because the Archbishop
is too chicken to state that the Koran promotes violence.Then there is Cameron,
'friend (puppet) of Israel.So you unbelievers like me do not dismiss as being
of no interest to you. This is vitally important. I've written to the
Archbishop but he keeps himself away by hiding behind his staff.
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:43:09 +0000
From: talk2ktc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [patriots] Fw: The Death of Christianity in Britain
MONDAY 07 DECEMBER 2015LAST UPDATED 1 MINUTE AGO This will have the secular
pluralist appeasers jumping for joy...strange how it is always this kind of
person with 'connections' who advocates such globalist thinking of the future
vision...
Britain is no longer a Christian country and should stop acting as if it is,
says judge Butler-Sloss.A major inquiry into the place of religion in modern
society has provoked a furious backlash from ministers and the Church of
England The return to religion Photo: ALAMY by John Bingham and Steven
Swinford 12:01AM GMT 07 Dec 2015538 Comments Britain is no longer a Christian
country and should stop acting as if it is, a major inquiry into the place of
religion in modern society has concluded, provoking a furious backlash from
ministers and the Church of England. A two-year commission, chaired by the
former senior judge Baroness Butler-Sloss and involving leading religious
leaders from all faiths, calls for public life in Britain to be systematically
de-Christianised. It says that the decline of churchgoing and the rise of Islam
and other faiths mean a "new settlement" is needed for religion in the UK,
giving more official influence to non-religious voices and those of
non-Christian faiths. Baroness Butler-Sloss Photo: PA The report provoked a
furious row last night as it was condemned by Cabinet ministers as "seriously
misguided" and the Church of England said it appeared to have been "hijacked"
by humanists. The report, by the Commission on Religion and Belief in Public
Life, claims that faith schools are "socially divisive" and says that the
selection of children on the basis of their beliefs should be phased out. It
also accuses those who devise some RE syllabuses of "sanitising" negative
aspects of religion in lessons and suggests that the compulsory daily act of
worship in school assmblies should be abolished and replaced with a "time for
reflection". The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Most Rev Justin Welby, (second
right) arrives for the General Synod of Church of England meeting at The
University of York. Photo: PAThe report backs moves cut the number of Church
of England bishops in the Lords and give places to imams, rabbis and other
non-other non-Christian clerics as well as evangelical pastors. Meanwhile the
coronation service for the next monarch should be overhauled to include other
faiths, the report adds. Controversially, it also calls for a rethink of
anti-terror policy, including ensuring students can voice radical views on
campus without fear of being reported to the security services. And it also
recommends new protections for women in Sharia courts and other religious
tribunals – including a call for the Government to consider requiring couples
who have a non-legally binding religious marriage also to have a civil
registration. It also suggests that Thought of the Day on BBC Radio 4's Today
programme should include non-religious messages. A woman wearing a black veil
Photo: ALAMYThe Commission on Religion and Belief in Public Life has attracted
particular controversy because of the seniority of those behind it. Its patrons
include Rowan Williams, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Woolf, the
former chief justice, and Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the former general secretary of
the Muslim Council of Britain. While gathering evidence the commissoners met
key players including including Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury;
Ephraim Mirvis, the Chief Rabbi; the Home Secretary Thersa May, and senior
executives at the BBC and Channel 4. The Church of England said the report was
a "sad waste" and had "fallen captive to liberal rationalism". Lord Woolf, 82,
served as the most senior judge in England and Wales for five years until 2005
Photo: ANDREW CROWLEYA spokeswoman for the Church of England said: “The report
is dominated by the old fashioned view that traditional religion is declining
in importance and that non-adherence to a religion is the same as humanism or
secularism." A source close to Nicky Morgan, the Education Secretary, described
the report's recommendations on faith schools as "ridiculous". The source said:
"Nicky is one of the biggest champions of faith schools and anyone who thinks
she is going to pay attention to these ridiculous recommendations is sorely
misguided." The report highlights figures showing the decline in people who say
they are Anglicans from 40 per cent in 1983 to less than a fifth in 2013. Nicky
Morgan arrives at 10 Downing Street as David Cameron names his new cabinet
Photo: ReutersIt says: "Three striking trends in recent decades have
revolutionised the landscape on which religion and belief in Britain meet and
interact. "The first is the increase in the number of people with non-religious
beliefs and identities. The second is the decline in Christian affiliation,
belief and practice and within this decline a shift in Christian affiliation
that has meant that Anglicans no longer comprise a majority of Christians. "The
third is the increase in the number of people who have a religious affiliation
but who are not Christian." Photo: ALAMYIt goes on to say: "The increase in
those with non-religious beliefs, the reduction in the number of Christians and
an increase in their diversity, and the increase in the number of people
identifying with non-Christian religions: these are the settled social context
of Britain today and for the foreseeable future, as is the unsettled and
unsettling context of the international environment". Its central
recommendation is for a national consultation exercise to draw up a 21st
Century equivalent to the Magna Carta to define the values at the heart of
modern Britain instead of the Government’s controversial “British values”
requirements. “From recent events in France, to the schools so many of our
children attend and even the adverts screened in cinemas, for good and ill
religion and belief impacts directly on all our daily lives,” said Lady
Butler-Sloss. A religious education class Photo: ALAMY“The proposals in this
report amount to a ‘new settlement for religion and belief in the UK’, intended
to provide space and a role for all within society, regardless of their beliefs
or absence of them.” The 150-page report sets out a major shift away from
Christianity in Britain – particularly the Church of England - with the number
of people describing themselves as having no religion jumping from less than a
third of the population to almost half in just 30 years. At the same time it
highlights the growth of non-Christian faiths, especially Islam, and an
explosion in the number of newer Pentecostal and evangelical Churches outside
of the traditional denominations. But the report stops short of calling for the
disestablishment of the Church of England, arguing that the special status of
Anglicanism in England and the Church of Scotland north of the border, has
helped other faith groups and “enables them to make their voice heard in the
public sphere”. The House of Lords during the State Opening of Parliament
Photo: PABut it adds: “The relationship of the Church of England to the state
has changed and is changing, and could change further. “The pluralist character
of modern society should be reflected in national forums such as the House of
Lords, so that they include a wider range of worldviews and religious
traditions, and of Christian denominations other than the Church of England” It
goes on to call for all national and civic events - including the next
coronation – to be designed to reflect “the pluralist character of modern
society”. Although the commission does not call for the abolition of faith
schools, it questions the fundamental premise on which they exist. “In England,
successive governments have claimed in recent years that faith schools and free
schools create and promote social inclusion leading to cohesion and
integration,” it says. The world's most haunted hotels Photo: Alamy“However,
it is in our view not clear that segregation of young people into faith schools
has promoted greater cohesion or that it has not been socially divisive,
leading to greater misunderstanding and tension.” But it also questions the
approach to religion in universities and colleges, including measures to curb
extremism on campus- particularly demands for lecturers to report students
showing signs of extremism. “Free debate should be possible without fear of
students being labelled as extremists or attracting the attention of the
security services,” the report argues. The Lord's Prayer is powerful Photo:
REX FEATURES“That all said, universities will deal better with religion if they
approach it as something that belongs to their intellectual discussions rather
than an external factor with which they have to cope.” It also urges the
Government to rethink its approach to the Muslim community in general,
including consulting those it considers to have less “palatable” views on
policy. It says: “In its selection of organisations with which to engage the
Government must guard against the perception that it is operating with a
simplistic good Muslims/bad Muslims distinction, or between ‘mainstream
moderates’ and ‘violent or non-violent extremists’.” The report also suggests
setting up an “advisory panel” of religious “experts” to examine complaints
about coverage of religion in the press.
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