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Well said Jack! - People need to wake up and learn to recognise the Edomite
devils walking amongst us in pants and shoe leather as the Americans say -
they have a different DNA and are of a different creation with no respect
for human life. - Chris



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Brian you are a liar!
Nobody has advocated violence and I insist that you stop accusing us of
doing so.

The violence I referred to was judicial hanging for treason and the violence
used by God! The only other method I referred to was deportation.

I have always said that resorting violence and rioting will be playing into
the hands of the Jewish Government string pullers

Jack

Unless you are a subscriber to the UKPatriots list, all emails sent through
'Reply All' to UKPatriots will be bounced.

On 05/12/2015 17:44, Brian Gerrish wrote:

Thank you for that Mike but the key points below remain.

You clearly have members keen on achieving violence and that is the route to
the Civil Contingencies Act and disaster.

To use the bible as 'evidence' to get that is just despicable ---Please take
me off the list and find another channel which supports the views that you
want to hear.

Brian G

On 05/12/2015 11:53, Mike Green wrote:

Brian,

The OT was written in ancient Hebrew with just a few chapters in the books
of Ezra and Daniel and one verse in the book of Jeremiah written in Aramaic.
The NT was written in Koine Greek, later translated into Aramaic by
Israelite scribes.

Mike.

On 05/12/15 09:12, Brian Gerrish wrote:

Dear Jack

Wasn't Aramaic part of the language set? Why have you left that out?

oh so now the real enemy is the Jews not the Muslims. How can that be when
all the last threads are "it's Islam!!"

So you mean anyone who is Jewish is an enemy? - Well that can't possibly
true as many brave Jewish people are speaking out and warning of those 'who
call themselves Jews and are not', and that is the biblical warning that you
will not address. Why?

When is the UKColumn going to start talking about treason? - I have
constantly talked about treason and still do.

So there are many of 'us' on the patriots list who are upset because I am
out doing the job in public instead of sitting exchanging emails on a list.
What a cheek.

You sit there comfortably out of sight whilst I have put my head well out
the trench been constantly attacked from day one, my business, family and
friends and you snipe that I must be an asset.

Where are you Jack? - where is your face in public most days reporting what
is really going on. How many police have you had at your door. My guess is
none.

Are you ex military? Have you served your country?

Come on let's see you and hear something about you in public so that I am on
an even playing field.

rgds Bg







On 05/12/2015 08:54, Jack Lewis wrote:

Hi Brian,
The real enemy are the Jews and not the Muslims. Many people have been
saying that for decades! Why do you think that Jews are the only people to
be protect by a law preventing criticism of them? I'm sure you have heard
the expression, 'If you want to know who controls you then find out who you
are not allowed to criticise.'

Regarding the Bible, it was written in Hebrew (OT) and Greek (NT). Where do
you get the notion it wasn't written in Greek?
I quoted Greek just as an example to demonstrate how important it is to get
the translation and context correct. You obviously disagree.
Regarding the OT did God or did God not instruct the Israelites (His chosen
people) to kill all those that were in the Canaan? Yes or no? I'm not
suggesting that we do that to all our enemies. The only people I would do
that to, without hesitation, are all MPs! I would have them all hanged for
treason! Then I would go for anyone else that had committed treason.
When is the UK Column going to start talking about treason!

There are many of us Brian who believe that UK Column is a red herring
lulling people into believing that we can make a difference. Do you think
the authorities would let you continue if you really started to tackle the
question of treason? What you get away with at the moment is what 'THEY'
allow. Anything or anyone that looks like it is going to damage their power
will be crushed or liquidated.

Jack






On 05/12/2015 08:34, Brian Gerrish wrote:

Jack

I am always interested when people assume what I know or don't know to back
an argument against me.

I understand the the basic subject of biblical translations very well and
different versions of the bible.

You quote greek but the original texts were not greek were they? So we could
debate for the next two years whilst the real enemy laughs and takes our
country apart.

As an example Oliver Letwin is controlling the Tory party and policy and
controlling the Queen's purse - is he Muslim? I don't think so but why are
you not researchinga nd warning about him?

The basis of your argument is that the message of Christ encourages us to
kill our enemies. That is simply not true.

I watch with great sadness as more and more 'activists' 'patriots' are
focusing on the fruits of treason which is war and the displacement of
people and fail to focus on the people and their doctrine causing it.

If you want me to join a claim that the Muslim's are the real enemy I will
not because it is not true. That is the false propaganda message.

End of message I have enough to do without these unproductive email
exchanges.

Try looking at the word to the disciples - spread the gospel and drive out
demons - what of who were those demons?

rgds Bg












On 04/12/2015 11:37, Jack Lewis wrote:

Hi Brian,
I was reading your reply to Chris and noticed a cavalier attitude to
understanding the original languages in which the Bible was written! You
cannot say that defining the meanings of the words used in the original
languages as choosing -Quote:
'the meaning you feel fits your own preconceived ideas -"

It is this attitude that has misled 99% of Christians from the Bible's true
meaning through examination of the original languages.

I'll give you an example:
In English we talk about men loving to make love, loving their wives, loving
other men, loving their children, loving their parents, loving their job,
loving art, loving music etc. etc.. The Greeks have 5 different words for
'love'. The one that is used will depend on the context in which it is used.
Its the same in German with the word for 'friend'. There is a masculine and
feminine version. Therefore to tell your wife you were out with a friend the
night before in English, even though it might have been a lady, let's you
off the hook but not so in German - you could be in serious trouble.

So it is with the Bible and this is what Chris was trying to explain to you.
Therefore another apology is needed only this time to Chris.

Jack





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Chris Pead's, replies to Brian Gerrish.



You are misquoting what I said. I was referring to "generally" in respect
only to the 2 versions of enemy which I quoted. I am not making up an
interpretation to the bible word Enemy - this how it is exactly described in
the original Hebrew and Greek for which they had 7 types of enemy, but
unfortunately the KJV under Jewish-Canaanite influence translated all the
different types of enemy as just enemy - after all it is just a version of
the original. Christ certainly did not love all people - He said He came for
His people only (The Caucasians) - Matt 15 - 24 also see 2 Chron 19; 1-2.

God also instructed his people not to associate with the heathen nor
tolerate their heathen temples in your land. - Chris



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I don't think so.



The bible is not there to choose the meaning you feel fits your own
preconceived ideas -



'refers generally to' - this is vague stuff



He is your racial kinsman but your er 'enemy'!!!



This is nothing to do with what Christianity is about - we are not point
scoring from books we are applying the love of Jesus Christ in life to real
human beings.



If you wish to interpret the bible to allow you to attack others you are
certainly on the wrong path.



Kind Regards Brian G











On 02/12/2015 21:07, Chris Pead wrote:

Hello Brian, The Bible certainly does not say love your enemy! You are
obviously quoting Judeo-Christian claptrap - the Hebrew and Greek had > 7
words for enemy. The one referring to "Turn the other cheek" and "Love your
enemy" refers generally to the annoying neighbour type of enemy who is your
racial kinsman. You should always use a first edition to concordance to
check word meanings before making such statements - I suggest you apologise
to John, who was right this time, for your error you made. - Chris





On 03/12/2015 19:58, Chris Pead wrote:

Yes John you are right - see my reply to Brian - Chris



From: john TIMBRELL
Sent: 03 December 2015 07:28
To: ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Brian Gerrish

Subject: [patriots] Re: Love your enemy?






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From: john timbrell
To: ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [patriots] Love your enemy?
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 07:26:51 +0000

Brian, As usual you twist what I say to cover up your own inadequacies.

I have never advocated violence. What I wanted you to do was to use your
voice to criticise those including Christian Church Leaders who state that
Islam is a peaceful religion. If you or they cannot be bothered to read the
Koran to find that the terrorists are doing exactly as the Koran promotes.

Unless this truth becomes more widely accepted we stand no chance of
countering it. The Children in their school spend large parts of their days
chanting things from the Koran. You are against mind control yet support
it's continuance in Muslim schools by your silence.

I repeat I have never advocated Violence. I promote using our law to stop
the evil amongst us. Quite the opposite is happening when the police protect
people carrying banners "Kill the infidel"

Your refusal to tell the truth implies a hidden motive.


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Subject: [patriots] Love your enemy?
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From: ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 21:54:49 +0000

Hi Brian,
I think you had better have another look at who exactly Jesus was talking to
when he said that!

Jack






On 02/12/2015 18:50, Brian Gerrish wrote:

John T

Oh dear.

You quote the Koran incorrectly and seem unaware of a key Christian
commandment of "love thine enemy". If you regard them as such - I don't.

You have not learned what Christianity is.

Yes let's all unleash hatred and violence against the Muslim 'hoards' and
see where that gets us - nowhere but plays directly into the hands of those
that would divide and rule.

Go on get the hatred out there - let's ignore the real danger, which is the
traitors who have betrayed the country...oh yes they are voting on killing
more people today...that is not a debate in a Muslim parliament but ours.

You don't get up my nose - I just wish you would think instead of dangerous
rhetoric.

rgds Bg


On 02/12/2015 18:05, john TIMBRELL wrote:

Quite correct for their criticism of the proposal of UK bombing of Syria. So
why does Brian Gerrish support Islam as a peaceful religion, when if one
reads the Koran it is full of hate for none believers. The terrorists are
just carrying out the dictates of the Koran.I thought Brian you were a
Christian .How can you advocate going against the first of the ten
commandments. You quite correctly point out the evils of Satanism. So how
can you justify your remarks to me about Islam being a peaceful religion. .
Your published statements demean your obvious attributes. Sincerely.JohnT.



P.S. I know I get up your nose. But I use the same critical language that
you use against the BBC and your local MP. Quite correct of course. But if
you throw stones you should expect some to come back to you if you yourself
act in a devious manner.Go on throw some back at me without your previous
abuse. Answer my point about the first commandment.

You criticised your local MP for not sticking to his Christian belief so
where do you really stand on your supposed Christian belief. Before
replying, if you dare, read the first commandment.

























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