Internet traffic cannot be routed anywhere without going through an
ISP first. And there is no such thing as a world-wide ISP, nor would
it be possible. Internet service provision is highly regulated on a
country by country basis with licenses issued by respective
governments for internet services provided within their country only.
In order for the Maidsafe network to act as an ISP it would,
therefore, have to set up infrastructure in every country in which it
operates and apply to every respective government for a licence. Then
we have the problem of respective governments having their own unique
regulations and restrictions on what can and can't be accessed by end
users. I am not convinced this isn't just another rouse to make us
think that we are anonymous, a word that is touted endlessly by such
people as TOR and Maidsafe without them ever explaining what that
means. We would be anonymous from other users on the Maidsafe network,
yes, but we can never be anonymous when it comes to our ISP.
Mike.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [patriots] Re: Internet & e-mail security
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:30:07 +0100
From: Chris Pead <cpead@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'Mike Green' <mikegreen247@xxxxxxxxx>
I assume Mike, that the new system will be one’s ISP as your internet
traffic will be routed direct to the new system. - Chris
*From:*Mike Green [mailto:mikegreen247@xxxxxxxxx]
*Sent:* 10 September 2014 12:26
*To:* Chris Pead; patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: [patriots] Re: Internet & e-mail security
But you cannot bypass your ISP unless you have a physical connection
to the network you want to access. All your internet traffic must,
therefore, go via your ISP, there is no other way.
Mike.
On 10/09/14 12:00, Chris Pead wrote:
Hello Mike,
As I understand it, it bypassed the ISP, so they can’t see what
you are communicating and as I say they would have remove the
entire telephone network to stop it! - Chris
*From:*patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mike Green
*Sent:* 10 September 2014 11:50
*To:* patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [patriots] Re: Internet & e-mail security
Hi Chris,
This is the bit I don't understand. How can it bypass the
carriers? I connect to the internet via my local telephone
exchange, owned and controlled by BT, as most people do. BT also
happens to be my Internet Service Provider ISP) or carrier. They
could shut me down any time they felt like it no matter who my ISP
was. How do we get around that?
Mike.
On 10/09/14 11:39, Chris Pead wrote:
Hello Colin,
From what I heard of the video, payment is in kind i.e. use of
part of the disc on one’s computer as all info is backed up
across individual computers and payment is also in making some
info available that can be shared.
It bypasses the carriers, so in order to destroy it they will
have to remove telephone network. Chris
*From:*patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Colin
*Sent:* 10 September 2014 10:54
*To:* patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [patriots] Re: Internet & e-mail security
This does look good, some points however.
What is the cost in the future, will it increase - the poor
may be left in the dark.
What will the speed be like?
And do you not think that when loads of us use it, the
government will immediately crack down on it and inform all
carriers to block it's use.
Just points to ponder before we get too exited.
Colin.
On 10/09/14 08:50, Jack Lewis wrote:
Hi All,
It was me who started the thread about Internet security
with the idea of using TOR. Several people responded
pointing out that whilst we use servers security is still
non-existent!
I have just watched this from Chris Pead and this seems to
have cracked the problem in that it doesn't use servers to
send data. Although it is not up and running as such it is
attracting a huge amount of interest from people concerned
about keeping their data safe. There are two videos one
which is the two Scottish developers are interviewed by
Max Keiser and the other is an animation that explain in
simple terms how the system will work.
I thoroughly recommend watching it and suggest watching
the animation one first and then watch the interview.
I would appreciate feedback from all the computer geeks
back to the list rather than me personally.
I think this will also be of special interest to the ECG!
Jack
On 09/09/2014 19:49, Chris Pead wrote:
MaidSafe is a game changer. To see why, watch this
excellent 12 minute overview of the system. Without
servers, no one can shut down or intercept any one.
http://eurofolkradio.com/2014/09/09/maidsafe-meet-max-keiser/
Kind regards,
Chris
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