[passtartoursgroup] Re: Can I borrow some help

  • From: Leah S <lphxaz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: passtartoursgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 00:28:21 -0700

Terri - good idea

and I feel that we should show them *their* stars, or as close as we can get, not some random visible ones.

here are the closest ones I found:

star A: HD 204290 (aka Tyco 4469-176-1):
from Simbad database: RA 21h 23m 20.02s, Dec 72d 07' 14.65"
from Redshift software: RA 21h 23m 32s, Dec 72d 11' 37"
mag 8.35, distance 525 LY

star B: Tyco 4468-295-1:
from Simbad database: RA 21h 03m 32.47s, Dec 72d 05' 43.44"
from Redshift software: RA 21h 03m 40s, Dec 72d 09' 49"
mag 10.0, distance 330 LY

I included the coordinates from two different sources to show that these can vary slightly (in some cases due to precession and when the coordinates were measured). so personally I think these stars are "close enough" to the coordinates we have. I think the stars can be found in a scope by star-hopping from visible stars, with a good star chart. 8th and 10th mag can be seen in any medium scope. if Mark can photocopy or scan the chart that the company gave him, we can be more exact.

On 9/30/2015 4:00 PM, Terri wrote:

I emailed Mark and asked him what magnitude his stars are, and i was going to see if he can photograph the star chart, so we can see where they are, exactly.
Waiting on response.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Brulipps <brulipps@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:brulipps@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

If they are looking for their stars. We should show them their
stars. If we can't get them in Phoenix we should not just pick
some stars and tell them a lie

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It appears my guess wasn't so wild after all. Sam



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From: Terri <starstuff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:starstuff@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 09/29/2015 8:33 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Kevin Witts <kjwitts@xxxxxxx <mailto:kjwitts@xxxxxxx>>
Cc: Sam Insana <insanas@xxxxxxx <mailto:insanas@xxxxxxx>>, Star
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Subject: Re: [passtartoursgroup] Can I borrow some help

Kevin
if you want to
If this is an "I bought us a star" deal… we could show 2
reasonable magnitude stars in Cepheus and no one would likely be
the wiser….
I'm good with that.
We should. Let me send you what Mark sent me, as the plan for Oct
17 with Mary. Hang a minute, i will copy and paste.
Terri

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Kevin Witts <kjwitts@xxxxxxx
<mailto:kjwitts@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

Here's what I got…. From Starry Nights V 7… and I REALLY Dug
around

The closest thing to "A" is TYC 4469-1392-1 its at RA
21 23 15.2 and Dec 72 20 10.7 and it's a Magnitude 11.18 Hubble would have trouble finding it



The closest thing to "B" is TYC 4468-295-1 it's at RA
21 3 54 and Dec 72 5 72,20 and it's a magnitude 10.12

There is NOTHING else in the sky there that mankind has
discovered yet

If this is an "I bought us a star" deal… we could show 2
reasonable magnitude stars in Cepheus and no one would likely
be the wiser….

However, there is NOTHING at those coordinates, and if there
was, you couldn't find it with anything short of a 4 meter scope.


Kevin


On Sep 29, 2015, at 6:43 PM, insanas@xxxxxxx
<mailto:insanas@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Just a wild guess, but perhaps someone paid a business to
name stars after their kids or other relatives and now they
want to see what they paid for. Good luck. Sam



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Subject: [passtartoursgroup] Re: Can I borrow some help

Terri,

Where did you get these coordinates from? I don't see
anything in Cepheus with those specific coordinates for
either star. And everything in that general area is
magnitude 6 or 7 from what I can tell.

Still looking at resources

Kevin


On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Terri <starstuff@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:starstuff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Can one of my wonderful Star Tours team members, who has
a little time on their hands, do me a very huge favor.

Can you find these two stars, point them out on a star
chart, and give that back to me? Like on Stellarium or
someplace, that we can print a star chart from, would be
helpful.

Many thanks
This is for Mary's event on Oct 17.
All help is appreciated.

Here's the stars I need to be found.

They are in the constellation of Cepheus

and what I need to know if if they can be seen in
one of our scopes, as 2 stars in one FOV.

Let's call them Star A and Star B just so i know which
one you are referring to, when you put them on a chart
for me. Just label them A or B, that would be
appreciated. Thanks.

A - RA 21h 23m 33.85s
Dec 72" 18' 6.32"

B - RA 21h 3m 28.30s
Dec 72" 2' 54.36"

Many thanks for your help. I'd do it, and i wanted to,
but these taxes have me so busy.

So, send me what you find, in a star chart format,
showing star A and B on it, marked. And then let me know
if we can see it through a telescope, in one FOV.

Terri

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