[passcoalition] Re: FW: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements
- From: Gene Bourquin DHA <oandmhk@xxxxxxx>
- To: <passcoalition@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:17:17 -0400
They have consistently put DWS at medians, sometimes poorly and sometimes they
have not, but that was just standard stuff and the very most basic of issues.
Gene
From: karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: passcoalition@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [passcoalition] Re: FW: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street
safety improvements
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 19:07:26 +0000
They didn’t pay attention to a lot, they did commit to warning strips at the
medians, but obviously, that’s not enough. Karen Karen Luxton Gourgey Ed.D.,
Director
Computer Center for Visually Impaired People
Baruch College, City University of New York
One Bernard Baruch Way, Box H-0648
New York, NY 10010
Phone: (646) 312-1426
Fax: (646) 312-1421
http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/ccvip/From: passcoalition-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:passcoalition-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Bourquin DHA
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:21 PM
To: PASS listserv
Subject: [passcoalition] Re: FW: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street
safety improvements I do not want to be relentlessly negative, nor do I think
we should get angry without a proper and effective response, but from my
reading of this they did not pay attention to a single one of our requests.
BTW, apologies for my typos. Typing on an iPad makes my errors even my
frequent than usual.
Gene
Dr. Eugene A Bourquin
_____________________________
DHA, COMS, CI & CT, CLVT
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From: karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: passcoalition@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [passcoalition] Re: FW: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street
safety improvements
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:13:30 +0000The other piece of good news is that she
has expressed in writing that she looks forward to working with us on safety
concerns at this and other locations, so maybe, we could actually have a
conversation with her once we’ve confirmed our issues. Karen Karen Luxton
Gourgey Ed.D., Director
Computer Center for Visually Impaired People
Baruch College, City University of New York
One Bernard Baruch Way, Box H-0648
New York, NY 10010
Phone: (646) 312-1426
Fax: (646) 312-1421
http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/ccvip/From: passcoalition-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:passcoalition-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Bourquin DHA
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:08 PM
To: PASS listserv
Subject: [passcoalition] Re: FW: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street
safety improvements First impressions: - they did not response to all the
concerns, in particular that curb cuts, median cuts, and APS alignment.- the
APS installations seems to be neither optimal nor best-practices, but with what
they have provided it is very unclear what will actually happen. If the new
APS will be "at the corners" on new poles, this means two APS on each pole.
This means they cannot possibly be at the crosswalk edges furthest from the
center of the intersections. Nor will they align with the median cut-throughs.
And two APS on pone pole can lead to confusion about which street to cross.
They will probably add the spoken message, but that only helps travelers
already familiar with the intersection. Getting from the APS ped button to the
actual place to cross might be very difficult.- the DOT keeps touting shorter
crossing distances, but obvious this cannot happen for blind pedestrians on the
north, and possibly the south, crosswalks, since APS will not be installed
there.-curb cuts will not be fixed or retrofitted with detectable warnings.
This is unfortunate. Some crosswalks have the cut are the apex, some at a
reasonable place, and others have no curb cuts. There are no detectable
warning surfaces at all. Annalyn, can you confirm this? The one piece of good
news is the pedestrian clearance interval, which will apparently be sufficient
for blind and low vision travelers to cross and exit the intersection. These
are only my initial reaction and we all should take a closer look.
Gene
Dr. Eugene A Bourquin
_____________________________
DHA, COMS, CI & CT, CLVT
Support deafblind children in Guatemala!
Go to www.FRIENDSofFUNDAL.org Visit: http://www.bourquinconsulting.com/
From: karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: passcoalition@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [passcoalition] FW: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street
safety improvements
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:37:13 +0000Here’s their response. We can all check it
out at the same time. Karen Karen Luxton Gourgey Ed.D., Director
Computer Center for Visually Impaired People
Baruch College, City University of New York
One Bernard Baruch Way, Box H-0648
New York, NY 10010
Phone: (646) 312-1426
Fax: (646) 312-1421
http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/ccvip/From: Forgione, Margaret
[mailto:mforgione@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:32 AM
To: Karen Gourgey
Subject: RE: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements
So sorry. Here it is. From: Karen Gourgey
[mailto:karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:11 AM
To: Forgione, Margaret
Subject: RE: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements
DearCommissioner Forgione, Thanks for your message. There is no attachment
with it. Could you please resend? Thanks very much. Karen Gourgey Karen
Luxton Gourgey Ed.D., Director
Computer Center for Visually Impaired People
Baruch College, City University of New York
One Bernard Baruch Way, Box H-0648
New York, NY 10010
Phone: (646) 312-1426
Fax: (646) 312-1421
http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/ccvip/From: Forgione, Margaret
[mailto:mforgione@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:15 PM
To: Karen Gourgey
Cc: Chattergoon, Colleen
Subject: FW: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements
Please see attached and let me know if you would like to discuss this further.
I can be reached at (212) 839-6210. Note, this also was sent to Matthew
Sapolin. Thanks.From: Karen Gourgey [mailto:karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:00 PM
To: Chattergoon, Colleen; Nancy Miller; Joyce Carrico; Mike Godino; Matthew
Sapolin; GENE BOURQUIN; Annalyn Barbier
Cc: Ann DeShazo; Betsy Fabricant; Roxsonne Simms
Subject: RE: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements
Hello: I am Dr. Karen Gourgey, Chair of the New York City Coalition for
Accessible and Safe Streets, (PASS.) PASS has been in contact with Ms.
Margaret Newman and others in the Department of Transportation to express our
grave concern with the lack of accessible pedestrian signals throughout the
City, and the lack of necessary accommodations such as detectable warnings at
bulb outs to alert blind and visually impaired pedestrians that they have
reached the point where a vehicular way meets a pedestrian surface such as a
sidewalk or median. As part of our work, we were given the presentation of the
planned improvements to the 23rd street and 7th avenue intersection. We had
serious concerns and we shared them with Commissioner Sapolin’s office, so that
they could be communicated to DOT. We were very disturbed when we learned
yesterday that our recommendations had not been taken into account at all and
that the redesign had not changed. PASS is an advocacy group of people who
are blind and visually impaired, agencies who work with visually impaired and
blind individuals, and professionals who teach orientation and mobility and who
are superbly qualified to assist DOT, so that pedestrian safety for people who
are blind and visually impaired can be maximized. PASS is not the official
representative of the tenants at 23rd street, though their association is a
member of our coalition. I would be pleased to speak with you if I can be of
help. And, if you can be helpful in encouraging your department to take our
recommendations into account, that would be extremely helpful. It is
imperative that work not begin on this project until these recommendations are
considered, and, we very much hope, implemented. Sincerely, Karen Gourgey Karen
Luxton Gourgey Ed.D., Director
Computer Center for Visually Impaired People
Baruch College, City University of New York
One Bernard Baruch Way, Box H-0648
New York, NY 10010
Phone: (646) 312-1426
Fax: (646) 312-1421
http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/ccvip/From: Chattergoon, Colleen
[mailto:cchattergoon@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:26 PM
To: Nancy Miller; Joyce Carrico; Mike Godino; Matthew Sapolin; GENE BOURQUIN;
Annalyn Barbier
Cc: Ann DeShazo; Karen Gourgey; Betsy Fabricant; Roxsonne Simms
Subject: RE: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements
I am a bit confused with the tone of your email. I would greatly appreciate if
you can direct me to the appropriate person with whom I should contact. Thank
you! From: Nancy Miller [mailto:nmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:18 PM
To: Chattergoon, Colleen; Joyce Carrico; Mike Godino; Matthew Sapolin; GENE
BOURQUIN; Annalyn Barbier
Cc: Nancy Miller; Ann DeShazo; karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Betsy Fabricant;
Roxsonne Simms
Subject: Re: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements
April 1, 2011, To Ms. Colleen Chattergoon, Please be aware that you should be
contacting and coordinating with the PASS Coalition. You should not be
contacting VISIONS staff. We do not represent the tenants in the building at
135 W. 23rd Street. They have a tenants association and the President is Joyce
Carrico. The group in NYC that is working on accessible pedestrian signals and
street accommodations for people with vision loss is the PASS Coalition. Karen
Gourgey who is involved with the Coalition and others are cc'd on this email.
You have not fulfilled your obligation to communicate by emailing a caseworker
at VISIONS. Please stop emailing Rocky Simms. Nancy D. Miller, LMSW
Executive Director/CEO
VISIONS/Services for the Blind and Visually Impaired
500 Greenwich Street, 3rd floor
New York, New York 10013
212-625-1616 ext. 117
nmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Chattergoon, Colleen wrote:
Ann, Thanks for the information! I will be in touch with Ms. Miller on
scheduling a site meeting once the improvements are completed. From: Ann
DeShazo [mailto:adeshazo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:47 PM
To: Chattergoon, Colleen
Cc: 'Nancy Miller'; karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Betsy Fabricant'; 'Roxsonne
Simms'
Subject: Phone Message regarding 7th Avenue/23rd street safety improvements Hi
Colleen, Thank you for your recent message regarding the updates of the safety
improvement project. I wanted to take this opportunity to inform you that
Rocky Simms is not the contact person for VISIONS, the Pass Coalition and she
does not represent the tenants here at Selis Manor. If you would like to keep
us informed and let us know how the project is going you will need to contact
Nancy Miller, Executive Director/CEO of VISIONS. All meetings and discussions
should take place with her. You can contact her at (212) 625-1616 ext. 117.
Thank you Ann De Shazo, LMSWDirector of VISIONS at Selis Manor
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