Re: the IN club: Oracle "unpublished" information
- From: "Charles Schultz" <sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Nigel Thomas" <nigel_cl_thomas@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:28:38 -0500
a) I have read JL's CBO bible quite a bit, some chapters many times (ie,
Chapters 7 and 10). And I am very eager for parts 2 and 3. *grin* My
questions are geared towards "what were they thinking". Jonathan (et al)
does a great job in reverse-engineering and "fishy" for details inside the
black box by making good guesses and using the scientific method.
Thanks, Nigel. I am hoping to meet some of these people.
On 3/14/07, Nigel Thomas <nigel_cl_thomas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Charles
a) you want to know how it works? buy Jonathan Lewis's CBO book (and wait
for parts 2, 3 etc). Invest some time in following his method (ie Robert the
Bruce - try, try and try again); Jonathan gives you some tasty fish, but
also the outline of a rod so you can feed yourself. That's what I'd do if I
had some free time (I don't - but that's my problem, not Oracle's)
b) "Is there any recourse to gently nudge Oracle Development "? As a
former Oracle (UK) employee - including time in CASE and Apps development -
I very much doubt it - at least as far as support goes.
Your curiosity doesn't (in itself) pay the rent on Redwood Shores.
Sometimes algorithms which seemed like a good idea just aren't. Sometimes
there are bugs. Sometimes there are unintended effects in cases which the
designers/developers didn't anticipate; perhaps data volumes are an order of
magnitude or two bigger than they expected. Shit happens.
Probably people like Wolfgang Breitling, Jonathan Lewis, Cary Millsap and
others (my former colleague Dave Ensor springs to mind - I'm sorry I can't
get to Miracle Scotland in May to meet up again) do the best job of nudging
by publicising well researched and more or less non-judgemental
"observations". Oracle developers - several of whom lurk or even respond on
this list - do have some pride, you know! Point out a problem and they'll
see an opportunity for improvement; maybe not in the next release, but
eventually.
The channels are there - but they are informal/personal. The Support call
centre is simply not designed to do what you want.You can meet Redwood
movers and shakers like Graham Wood (another ex-Oracle UK guy big in Oracle
server performance) and K Gopalakrishnan - author of Oracle Wait Interface)
on this list and at conferences like RMOUG, Miracle and Hotsos. That's the
way to learn and influence, I think.
So keep on ferreting about, and good luck!
Regards Nigel
--
Charles Schultz
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