RE: query for top 10 sql?
- From: "Lex de Haan" <lex.de.haan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:58:40 +0100
for sorting 10 out of 1000 you indeed need to SCAN the whole set, but you do
not need to SORT the whole set; you only need a temporary array of length 10
to maintain the ten largest values encountered so far. any lower values can
immediately be discarded, any high values just kick out one of the existing
temp array values. this is much cheaper than sorting ...
hope this helps,
Lex.
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Subject: RE: query for top 10 sql?
In my version (new one) it's in "Chapter 8: Effective SQL", paragraph
"Top-N Query Processing with ROWNUM".
mvg/regards
Jo
Igor Neyman <ineyman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: query for top 10 sql?
It's in "Effective Oracle".
Don't have book with me to reference the page.
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Subject: Re: query for top 10 sql?
On 03/11/2004 10:39:05 AM, Igor Neyman wrote:
> Obviously in this case (second out of 3) it doesn't make any
difference.
> But, if asked for top 10 out of 1000:
> - Without optimization: all 1000 would have been sorted;
> - With optimization: find top 10 and stop, no need to sort the rest
990.
>
> Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
> ineyman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
Quite frankly, I still don't know which book are you referring to,
"effective oracle" or "101"
and, if "1-on-1", which edition? I'm asking because things don't look
very logical to me,
so I'd like to read them. I'd be thankful if you specified the book more
closely.
It doesn't look logical to me to sort only 10 out of 1000 if I want to
find the 10 maximal ones.
Namely, to find 10 largest, I need to sort them all. I can stop
producing output after 10th
row, but I must sort them all, or use some fancy sort algorithm,
significantly slower then
topological sort or quick sort (see Knuth for the description of those).
Tom's explanation
of those seemingly contradicting facts is probably wonderful and I'd
like to read it. As I have
all 3 of his books, I'd appreciate if you could reveal your source.
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