Re: options for standby database

  • From: Fergal Taheny <ftaheny@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: David Fitzjarrell <oratune@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:09:13 +0100

I didn't say I was surprised. I said I was surprised Oracle gets away with
it. So if I bought a perpetual license at 10g or 11g and build an app using
cdc. And I have paid maintenance for update and support I expect that I
will won't have to pay anything extra unless I decide to use some new cost
option. Now at some stage I have to upgrade to 12c or I won't be on a
supported version but then I will have to make changes to my app to do cdc
in a different way and fork out for golden gate licenses.

I don't think this is acceptable. What next? Make indexes an extra cost
option.
On 10 Jun 2014 17:53, "David Fitzjarrell" <oratune@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Why are you surprised?  I've seen this coming for a while now.  Besides,
> if Golden Gate surpasses Streams in functionality (which, I believe, it
> does) it makes sense to deprecate functionality that's merely a subset of
> another product.
>
> David Fitzjarrell
> Principal author, "Oracle Exadata Survival Guide"
>
>
>   On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:48 AM, Fergal Taheny <ftaheny@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
> In the 12c upgrade guide
>
> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E16655_01/server.121/e17642/deprecated.htm#UPGRD60000
> *8.1.6 Deprecation of Oracle Streams*
> Oracle Streams is deprecated in Oracle Database 12c and may be desupported
> and unavailable in a later Oracle Database release. Use Oracle GoldenGate
> to replace all replication features of Oracle Streams.
> Also more importantly in my opinion:
> *8.2.2 **Desupport** of Change Data Capture*
> Oracle Change Data Capture is not included in Oracle Database 12c and has
> been replaced with Oracle GoldenGate
> I am surprised that oracle gets away with removing features and replacing
> them with extra cost options.
> Regards,
> Fergal
> On 10 Jun 2014 14:40, "Jared Still" <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Maureen English <
> maureen.english@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I've also heard that Streams will no longer be supported after 11gR2.
>
>
> That doesn't seem too likely.
>
> Golden Gate integrated replication won't work without Streams.  :)
>
>
> Jared Still
> Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
> Sr Oracle DBA at Pythian
> Pythian Blog http://www.pythian.com/blog/author/still/
> Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com
> Home Page: http://jaredstill.com
>
>
>
>

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